From: Richard Biener <richard.guenther@gmail.com>
To: Aldy Hernandez <aldyh@redhat.com>
Cc: Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>,
"MacLeod, Andrew" <amacleod@redhat.com>,
GCC patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [COMMITTED] Be even more conservative in intersection of NANs.
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2022 11:18:00 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFiYyc2_=oDfVcorrhDYrhy7FEAoWfqCnRvU5kduvunuT-Uj6Q@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGm3qMU0KAqmudP9orh4BSYbDxjqSk=osR=R=yiHRCgyn9k3Cg@mail.gmail.com>
On Mon, Sep 5, 2022 at 11:12 AM Aldy Hernandez <aldyh@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Sep 5, 2022 at 11:06 AM Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 05, 2022 at 11:00:54AM +0200, Richard Biener wrote:
> > > On Mon, Sep 5, 2022 at 8:24 AM Aldy Hernandez via Gcc-patches
> > > <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Intersecting two ranges where one is a NAN is keeping the sign bit of
> > > > the NAN range. This is not correct as the sign bits may not match.
> > > >
> > > > I think the only time we're absolutely sure about the intersection of
> > > > a NAN and something else, is when both are a NAN with exactly the same
> > > > properties (sign bit). If we're intersecting two NANs of differing
> > > > sign, we can decide later whether that's undefined or just a NAN with
> > > > no known sign. For now I've done the latter.
> > > >
> > > > I'm still mentally working on intersections involving NANs, especially
> > > > if we want to keep track of signbits. For now, let's be extra careful
> > > > and only do things we're absolutely sure about.
> > > >
> > > > Later we may want to fold the intersect of [NAN,NAN] and say [3,5]
> > > > with the posibility of NAN, to a NAN, but I'm not 100% sure.
> > >
> > > The intersection of [NAN, NAN] and [3, 5] is empty. The intersection
> > > of [NAN, NAN] and VARYING is [NAN, NAN].
> >
> > I think [3.0, 5.0] printed that way currently means U maybe NAN,
> > it would be [3.0, 5.0] !NAN if it was known not to be NAN.
>
> Right. I don't print any of the "maybe" properties, just if they're
> definitely set or definitely clear. I'm open to suggestions as to how
> to display them. Perhaps NAN, !NAN, ?NAN.
There's no NAN tristate. Your "definitely NAN" would be simply
][ NAN, that is, the value range only contains NAN. Your !NAN
is <whatever range> and non NAN. Likewise for the sign, the
range either includes -NAN and NAN or one or none of those.
For signed zeros you either have [-0, upper-bound] or [0, upper-bound]
where it either includes both -0 and 0 or just one of them
> I'm mostly worried about removing a NAN from the IL that was going to
> signal, or some such. While I agree with you Richard, I just want to
> make real sure, because getting something wrong in the frange or
> range-ops bowels means the problem becomes pervasive to all of ranger
> ...and threader...and loop ch...and vrp, etc etc. I just want to take
> more time to test things. I promise it won't stay varying too long.
There's sNANs and qNANs, but I think for value-ranges we should
concern ourselves only with qNANs for now and leave sNANs VARYING.
All operations only ever produce qNANs (loads can produce sNANs).
Richard.
> Aldy
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2022-09-05 9:18 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2022-09-05 6:23 Aldy Hernandez
2022-09-05 9:00 ` Richard Biener
2022-09-05 9:06 ` Jakub Jelinek
2022-09-05 9:11 ` Aldy Hernandez
2022-09-05 9:18 ` Richard Biener [this message]
2022-09-05 9:41 ` Aldy Hernandez
2022-09-05 9:53 ` Richard Biener
2022-09-05 10:24 ` Aldy Hernandez
2022-09-05 10:38 ` Richard Biener
2022-09-05 11:45 ` Aldy Hernandez
2022-09-05 12:16 ` Richard Biener
2022-09-06 7:21 ` Aldy Hernandez
2022-09-06 9:09 ` Richard Biener
2022-09-06 10:26 ` Aldy Hernandez
2022-09-05 9:13 ` Richard Biener
2022-09-05 9:28 ` Aldy Hernandez
2022-09-05 9:41 ` Richard Biener
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