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From: Richard Biener <richard.guenther@gmail.com>
To: Lehua Ding <lehua.ding@rivai.ai>
Cc: Vladimir Makarov <vmakarov@redhat.com>,
	gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org, richard.sandiford@arm.com,
	 juzhe.zhong@rivai.ai
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3 1/7] df: Add DF_LIVE_SUBREG problem
Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2023 10:03:22 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFiYyc38q7bMqie59Vf6mp2egoAJORYpufmEOVfC3EUskBTi-g@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1A588F107664DFA6+96d02d06-07bd-4e79-9493-5e0824d672dd@rivai.ai>

On Tue, Nov 14, 2023 at 9:38 AM Lehua Ding <lehua.ding@rivai.ai> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 2023/11/14 16:14, Richard Biener wrote:
> > On Mon, Nov 13, 2023 at 11:39 PM Vladimir Makarov <vmakarov@redhat.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> On 11/12/23 07:08, Lehua Ding wrote:
> >>> This patch adds a live_subreg problem to extend the original live_reg to
> >>> track the liveness of subreg. We will only try to trace speudo registers
> >>> who's mode size is a multiple of nature size and eventually a small portion
> >>> of the inside will appear to use subreg. With live_reg problem, live_subreg
> >>> prbolem will have the following output. full_in/out mean the entire pesudo
> >>> live in/out, partial_in/out mean the subregs of the pesudo are live in/out,
> >>> and range_in/out indicates which part of the pesudo is live. all_in/out is
> >>> the union of full_in/out and partial_in/out:
> >>>
> >> I am not a maintainer or reviewer of data-flow analysis framework and
> >> can not approve this patch except changes in regs.h.  Richard Sandiford
> >> or Jeff Law as global reviewers probably can do this.
> >>
> >> As for regs.h changes, they are ok for me after fixing general issues I
> >> mentioned in my previous email (two spaces after sentence ends in the
> >> comments).
> >>
> >> I think all this code is a major compiler time and memory consumer in
> >> all set of the patches.  DF analysis is slow by itself even when only
> >> effective data structures as bitmaps are used but you are introducing
> >> even slower data structure as maps (I believe better performance data
> >> structure can be used instead).  In the very first version of LRA I used
> >> DFA but it made LRA so slow that I had to introduce own data structures
> >> which are faster in case of massive RTL changes in LRA.  The same
> >> problem exists for using generic C++ standard library data as vectors
> >> and maps for critical code.  It is hard to get a needed performance when
> >> the exact implementation can vary or be not what you need, e.g. vector
> >> initial capacity, growth etc.  But again the performance issues can be
> >> addressed later.
> >
> > I think the important bit should be the subreg live analysis should be
> > opt-in and when not enabled shouldn't have a bad effect on memory
> > usage and compile-time.  At -O0 and -O1 RA consumes a major
> > amount of compile-time.
>
> This is perfectly fine, the code inside the live_subreg problem has a
> branch that goes through similar logic to live_reg if it finds no subreg
> inside the program. Then when the optimization level is less than 2, it
> doesn't track the subreg. By the way, I'd like to ask you if you have
> certain programs where RA has a big impact on compilation time to offer?
> Or any suggestions about it?

I suggest you farm bugzilla for the compile-time-hog / memory-hog testcases.
I do have a set of "large" testcases.  Scanning results points at
PRs 36262, 37448, 39326, 69609 all having RA in the 20% area at
-O0 -g.

It's also a good idea to take say cc1files (set of preprocessed sources
that produce GCCs cc1) and look at the overall impact of compile-time
and memory-usage of a change on those which are representative
for "normal" TUs as opposed to the PRs above which often are
large machine-generated TUs (an important area where GCC usually
shines, at least at -O1).

Richard.

> --
> Best,
> Lehua (RiVAI)
> lehua.ding@rivai.ai

  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-14  9:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-12 12:08 [PATCH V3 0/7] ira/lra: Support subreg coalesce Lehua Ding
2023-11-12 12:08 ` [PATCH V3 1/7] df: Add DF_LIVE_SUBREG problem Lehua Ding
2023-11-13 22:38   ` Vladimir Makarov
2023-11-14  8:14     ` Richard Biener
2023-11-14  8:38       ` Lehua Ding
2023-11-14  9:03         ` Richard Biener [this message]
2023-11-14 14:52           ` Vladimir Makarov
2023-11-14 17:18         ` Vladimir Makarov
2023-11-14 18:29           ` Vladimir Makarov
2023-11-20 20:11   ` Richard Sandiford
2023-11-21  6:35     ` Lehua Ding
2023-11-12 12:08 ` [PATCH V3 2/7] ira: Switch to live_subreg data Lehua Ding
2023-11-14 20:26   ` Vladimir Makarov
2023-11-12 12:08 ` [PATCH V3 3/7] ira: Support subreg live range track Lehua Ding
2023-11-14 20:37   ` Vladimir Makarov
2023-11-12 12:08 ` [PATCH V3 4/7] ira: Support subreg copy Lehua Ding
2023-11-16 21:13   ` Vladimir Makarov
2023-11-17  2:06     ` Lehua Ding
2023-11-17 14:05       ` Vladimir Makarov
2023-11-18  8:00         ` Lehua Ding
2023-11-18  8:06           ` Sam James
2023-11-18  8:16             ` Lehua Ding
2023-11-18  8:24               ` Sam James
2023-11-18  8:27                 ` Lehua Ding
2023-11-12 12:08 ` [PATCH V3 5/7] ira: Add all nregs >= 2 pseudos to tracke subreg list Lehua Ding
2023-11-16 21:14   ` Vladimir Makarov
2023-11-12 12:08 ` [PATCH V3 6/7] lra: Switch to live_subreg data flow Lehua Ding
2023-11-12 12:08 ` [PATCH V3 7/7] lra: Support subreg live range track and conflict detect Lehua Ding
2023-11-13 16:43 ` [PATCH V3 0/7] ira/lra: Support subreg coalesce Dimitar Dimitrov
2023-11-15  2:10   ` Lehua Ding
2023-11-13 19:37 ` Vladimir Makarov
2023-11-14  5:37   ` Lehua Ding
2023-11-14 23:33     ` Peter Bergner
2023-11-14 23:22 ` Peter Bergner
2023-11-15  3:12   ` Lehua Ding
2023-11-15  3:33     ` Peter Bergner

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