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From: Richard Biener <richard.guenther@gmail.com>
To: Manolis Tsamis <manolis.tsamis@vrull.eu>
Cc: Jeff Law <jeffreyalaw@gmail.com>,
	Philipp Tomsich <philipp.tomsich@vrull.eu>,
	 Andrew MacLeod <amacleod@redhat.com>,
	gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v1] [RFC] Improve folding for comparisons with zero in tree-ssa-forwprop.
Date: Thu, 3 Aug 2023 09:04:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAFiYyc3BW7Ly=8VSTm+kmZjy=09q2e-EQBbBVZvFSjr9it40Tg@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAM3yNXoTvbY4DvtZmWpMEE47P3kXVznipEMDSan97MT94JqX1g@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, Aug 2, 2023 at 4:08 PM Manolis Tsamis <manolis.tsamis@vrull.eu> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm pinging to discuss again if we want to move this forward for GCC14.
>
> I did some testing again and I haven't been able to find obvious
> regressions, including testing the code from PR86270 and PR70359 that
> Richard mentioned.
> I still believe that zero can be considered a special case even for
> hardware that doesn't directly benefit in the comparison.
> For example it happens that the testcase from the commit compiles to
> one instruction less in x86:
>
> .LFB0:
>     movl    (%rdi), %eax
>     leal    1(%rax), %edx
>     movl    %edx, (%rdi)
>     testl    %eax, %eax
>     je    .L4
>     ret
> .L4:
>     jmp    g
>
> vs
>
> .LFB0:
>     movl    (%rdi), %eax
>     addl    $1, %eax
>     movl    %eax, (%rdi)
>     cmpl    $1, %eax
>     je    .L4
>     ret
> .L4:
>     xorl    %eax, %eax
>     jmp    g
>
> (The xorl is not emitted  when testl is used. LLVM uses testl but also
> does xor eax, eax :) )
> Although this is accidental, I believe it also showcases that zero is
> a preferential value in various ways.
>
> I'm running benchmarks comparing the effects of this change and I'm
> also still looking for testcases that result in problematic
> regressions.
> Any feedback or other concerns about this are appreciated!

My comment from Apr 24th still holds, IMO this is something for
instruction selection (aka the ISEL pass) or the out-of-SSA tweaks
we do during RTL expansion (see insert_backedge_copies)

Richard.

> Thanks,
> Manolis
>
> On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 9:43 AM Richard Biener
> <richard.guenther@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, Apr 26, 2023 at 4:30 AM Jeff Law <jeffreyalaw@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 4/25/23 01:21, Richard Biener wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Apr 25, 2023 at 1:05 AM Jeff Law <jeffreyalaw@gmail.com> wrote
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> On 4/24/23 02:06, Richard Biener via Gcc-patches wrote:
> > > >>> On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 11:01 PM Philipp Tomsich
> > > >>> <philipp.tomsich@vrull.eu> wrote:
> > > >>>>
> > > >>>> Any guidance on the next steps for this patch?
> > > >>>
> > > >>> I think we want to perform this transform later, in particular when
> > > >>> the test is a loop exit test we do not want to do it as it prevents
> > > >>> coalescing of the IV on the backedge at out-of-SSA time.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> That means doing the transform in folding and/or before inlining
> > > >>> (the test could become a loop exit test) would be a no-go.  In fact
> > > >>> for SSA coalescing we'd want the reverse transform in some cases, see
> > > >>> PRs 86270 and 70359.
> > > >>>
> > > >>> If we can reliably undo for the loop case I suppose we can do the
> > > >>> canonicalization to compare against zero.  In any case please split
> > > >>> up the patch (note
> > > >> I've also
> > > >>> hoped we could eventually get rid of that part of
> > > >>> tree-ssa-forwprop.cc
> > > >> in favor
> > > >>> of match.pd patterns since it uses GENERIC folding :/).
> > > >>>
> > > >> Do we have enough information to do this at expansion time?  That would
> > > >> avoid introducing the target dependencies to drive this in gimple.
> > > >
> > > > I think so, but there isn't any convenient place to do this I think.  I suppose
> > > > there's no hope to catch it during RTL opts?
> > > Combine would be the most natural place in the RTL pipeline, but it'd be
> > > a 2->2 combination which would be rejected.
> > >
> > > We could possibly do it as a define_insn_and_split, but the gimple->RTL
> > > interface seems like a better fit to me.  If TER has done its job, we
> > > should see a complex enough tree node to do the right thing.
> >
> > Of course we'd want to get rid of TER in favor of ISEL
> >
> > Richard.
> >
> > > jeff

  reply	other threads:[~2023-08-03  7:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 20+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-03-16 15:27 Manolis Tsamis
2023-03-16 16:41 ` Jeff Law
2023-03-16 20:32   ` Philipp Tomsich
2023-03-17  8:31 ` Richard Biener
2023-03-17 13:15   ` Philipp Tomsich
2023-03-17 14:03     ` Richard Biener
2023-03-17 20:43     ` Andrew Waterman
2023-03-17 14:12   ` Andrew MacLeod
2023-03-20 14:01   ` Manolis Tsamis
2023-03-23 23:27     ` Jeff Law
2023-04-21 21:01     ` Philipp Tomsich
2023-04-24  8:06       ` Richard Biener
2023-04-24 23:05         ` Jeff Law
2023-04-25  7:21           ` Richard Biener
2023-04-26  2:30             ` Jeff Law
2023-04-26  6:41               ` Richard Biener
2023-08-02 14:07                 ` Manolis Tsamis
2023-08-03  7:04                   ` Richard Biener [this message]
2023-08-03 15:21                     ` Jeff Law
2023-08-04  6:37                       ` Richard Biener

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