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From: Aldy Hernandez <aldyh@redhat.com>
To: Andrew MacLeod <amacleod@redhat.com>
Cc: Richard Biener <richard.guenther@gmail.com>,
	GCC patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [COMMITTED] Convert nonzero mask in irange to wide_int.
Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2022 16:30:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGm3qMU1u_-_4Fy1wWk59FT+LbvsE1vFKdKq8pQ5ePv9uXZzag@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55c5aebd-6b51-982b-3dc7-73513c727f58@redhat.com>

On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 3:27 PM Andrew MacLeod <amacleod@redhat.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 10/4/22 08:13, Aldy Hernandez via Gcc-patches wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 4, 2022, 13:28 Aldy Hernandez <aldyh@redhat.com> wrote:
> >
> >> On Tue, Oct 4, 2022 at 9:55 AM Richard Biener
> >> <richard.guenther@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Am 04.10.2022 um 09:36 schrieb Aldy Hernandez via Gcc-patches <
> >> gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>:
> >>>> The reason the nonzero mask was kept in a tree was basically inertia,
> >>>> as everything in irange is a tree.  However, there's no need to keep
> >>>> it in a tree, as the conversions to and from wide ints are very
> >>>> annoying.  That, plus special casing NULL masks to be -1 is prone
> >>>> to error.
> >>>>
> >>>> I have not only rewritten all the uses to assume a wide int, but
> >>>> have corrected a few places where we weren't propagating the masks, or
> >>>> rather pessimizing them to -1.  This will become more important in
> >>>> upcoming patches where we make better use of the masks.
> >>>>
> >>>> Performance testing shows a trivial improvement in VRP, as things like
> >>>> irange::contains_p() are tied to a tree.  Ughh, can't wait for trees in
> >>>> iranges to go away.
> >>> You want trailing wide int storage though.  A wide_int is quite large.
> >> Absolutely, this is only for short term storage.  Any time we need
> >> long term storage, say global ranges in SSA_NAME_RANGE_INFO, we go
> >> through vrange_storage which will stream things in a more memory
> >> efficient manner.  For irange, vrange_storage will stream all the
> >> sub-ranges, including the nonzero bitmask which is the first entry in
> >> such storage, as trailing_wide_ints.
> >>
> >> See irange_storage_slot to see how it lives in GC memory.
> >>
> > That being said, the ranger's internal cache uses iranges, albeit with a
> > squished down number of subranges (the minimum amount to represent the
> > range).  So each cache entry will now be bigger by the difference between
> > one tree and one wide int.
> >
> > I wonder if we should change the cache to use vrange_storage. If not now,
> > then when we convert all the subranges to wide ints.
> >
> > Of course, the memory pressure of the cache is not nearly as problematic as
> > SSA_NAME_RANGE_INFO. The cache only stores names it cares about.
>
> Rangers cache can be a memory bottleneck in pathological cases..
> Certainly not as bad as it use to be, but I'm sure it can still be
> problematic.    Its suppose to be a memory efficient representation
> because of that.  The cache can have an entry for any live ssa-name
> (which means all of them at some point in the IL) multiplied by a factor
> involving the number of dominator blocks and outgoing edges ranges are
> calculated on.   So while SSA_NAME_RANGE_INFO is a linear thing, the
> cache lies somewhere between a logarithmic and exponential factor based
> on the CFG size.

Hmmm, perhaps the ultimate goal here should be to convert the cache to
use vrange_storage, which uses trailing wide ints for all of the end
points plus the masks (known_ones included for the next release).

>
> if you are growing the common cases of 1 to 2 endpoints to more than
> double in size (and most of the time not be needed), that would not be
> very appealing :-P  If we have any wide-ints, they would need to be a
> memory efficient version.   The Cache uses an irange_allocator, which is
> suppose to provide a memory efficient objects.. hence why it trims the
> number of ranges down to only what is needed.  It seems like a trailing
> wide-Int might be in order based on that..
>
> Andrew
>
>
> PS. which will be more problematic if you eventually introduce a
> known_ones wide_int.    I thought the mask tracking was/could be
> something simple like  HOST_WIDE_INT..  then you only tracks masks in
> types up to the size of a HOST_WIDE_INT.  then storage and masking is
> all trivial without going thru a wide_int.    Is that not so/possible?

That's certainly easy and cheaper to do.  The hard part was fixing all
the places where we weren't keeping the masks up to date, and that's
done (sans any bugs ;-)).

Can we get consensus here on only tracking masks for type sizes less
than HOST_WIDE_INT?  I'd hate to do all the work only to realize we
need to track 512 bit masks on a 32-bit host cross :-).

Aldy


  reply	other threads:[~2022-10-04 14:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-10-04  7:35 Aldy Hernandez
2022-10-04  7:55 ` Richard Biener
2022-10-04 11:28   ` Aldy Hernandez
2022-10-04 12:13     ` Aldy Hernandez
2022-10-04 13:27       ` Andrew MacLeod
2022-10-04 14:30         ` Aldy Hernandez [this message]
2022-10-04 14:34           ` Richard Biener
2022-10-04 15:14             ` Aldy Hernandez
2022-10-04 15:42               ` Andrew MacLeod
2022-10-05 10:14                 ` Aldy Hernandez
2022-10-07  9:23                   ` Aldy Hernandez

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