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From: Aldy Hernandez <aldyh@redhat.com>
To: Jeff Law <jeffreyalaw@gmail.com>
Cc: gcc-patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] [ranger] x == -0.0 does not mean we can replace x with -0.0
Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2022 16:26:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGm3qMVhozpN_3X_sWK6ow6DWu7M_ZHwNoH7+2_d-1usOvd-UQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <616b4af5-e3b7-844e-5dcf-a73a5280d114@gmail.com>

On Mon, Aug 29, 2022 at 4:22 PM Jeff Law via Gcc-patches
<gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org> wrote:
>
>
>
> On 8/29/2022 7:31 AM, Aldy Hernandez via Gcc-patches wrote:
> > On Mon, Aug 29, 2022 at 3:22 PM Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com> wrote:
> >> On Mon, Aug 29, 2022 at 03:13:21PM +0200, Aldy Hernandez wrote:
> >>> It seems to me we can do this optimization regardless, but then treat
> >>> positive and negative zero the same throughout the frange class.
> >>> Particularly, in frange::singleton_p().  We should never return TRUE
> >>> for any version of 0.0.  This will keep VRP from propagating an
> >>> incorrect 0.0, since all VRP does is propagate when a range is
> >>> provably a singleton.  Also, frange::zero_p() shall return true for
> >>> any version of 0.0.
> >> Well, I think for HONOR_SIGNED_ZEROS it would be nice if frange was able to
> >> differentiate between 0.0 and -0.0.
> >> One reason is e.g. to be able to optimize copysign/signbit - if we can
> >> prove that the sign bit on some value will be always cleared or always set,
> >> we can fold those.
> >> On the other side, with -fno-signed-zeros it is invalid to use
> >> copysign/signbit on values that could be zero (well, nothing guarantees
> >> whether the sign bit is set or clear), so for MODE_HAS_SIGNED_ZEROS &&
> >> !HONOR_SIGNED_ZEROS it is best to treat contains_p as {-0.0,0.0} being
> >> one thing (just not singleton_p) and not bother with details like whether
> >> a range ends or starts with -0.0 or 0.0, either of them would work the same.
> >> And for !MODE_HAS_SIGNED_ZEROS, obviously 0.0 can be singleton_p.
> > *head explodes*
> >
> > Ok, I think I can add a zero property we can track (like we do for
> > NAN), and set it appropriately at constant creation and upon results
> > from copysign/signbit.  However, I am running out of time before
> > Cauldron, so I think I'll just treat +-0.0 ambiguously for now, and do
> > that as a follow-up.
> We definitely want to be able to track +-0.0 and distinguish between
> them.  IIRC there's cases where you can start eliminating comparisons
> and arithmetic once you start tracking -0.0 state.

Absolutely.  That was always the plan.  However, my goal was just to
add relop stubs so others could flesh out the rest.  Alas, I'm way
over that now :).  We're tracking NANs, endpoints, infinities, etc.

However, I'm hoping to forget as many floating point details, as fast
as possible, as soon as I can ;-).

Aldy


  reply	other threads:[~2022-08-29 14:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-08-26 15:46 Aldy Hernandez
2022-08-26 16:40 ` Jakub Jelinek
2022-08-29 13:13   ` Aldy Hernandez
2022-08-29 13:21     ` Jakub Jelinek
2022-08-29 13:31       ` Aldy Hernandez
2022-08-29 14:20         ` Jeff Law
2022-08-29 14:26           ` Aldy Hernandez [this message]
2022-08-29 15:08             ` Jeff Law
2022-08-29 15:13               ` Toon Moene
2022-08-29 17:07                 ` Jeff Law
2022-08-29 17:37                   ` Koning, Paul
2022-08-29 19:04                   ` Toon Moene
2022-08-29 15:29               ` Aldy Hernandez
2022-08-31 10:08       ` Aldy Hernandez

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