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From: Christophe Lyon <christophe.lyon@linaro.org>
To: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>
Cc: Szabolcs Nagy <Szabolcs.Nagy@arm.com>, nd <nd@arm.com>,
		Christophe Lyon <christophe.lyon@st.com>,
		"gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org" <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [ARM/FDPIC v5 03/21] [ARM] FDPIC: Force FDPIC related options unless -mno-fdpic is provided
Date: Tue, 21 May 2019 15:29:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKdteOYib_prAgDcBbB9xGDaNtAz0p_eF3m6FbfTWHL+0KsNvw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190515160646.GW23599@brightrain.aerifal.cx>

On Wed, 15 May 2019 at 18:06, Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org> wrote:
>
> On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 03:59:39PM +0000, Szabolcs Nagy wrote:
> > On 15/05/2019 16:37, Rich Felker wrote:
> > > On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 05:12:11PM +0200, Christophe Lyon wrote:
> > >> On Wed, 15 May 2019 at 16:37, Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org> wrote:
> > >>> On Wed, May 15, 2019 at 01:55:30PM +0000, Szabolcs Nagy wrote:
> > >>>> can support both normal elf and fdpic elf so you can test/use
> > >>>> an fdpic toolchain on a system with mmu, but this requires
> > >>>> different dynamic linker name ..otherwise one has to run
> > >>>> executables in a chroot or separate mount namespace to change
> > >>>> the dynamic linker)
> > >>>
> > >>> Indeed, it's a bad idea to make them clash.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> Not sure to understand your point: indeed FDPIC binaries work
> > >> on a system with mmu, provided you have the right dynamic
> > >> linker in the right place, as well as the needed runtime libs (libc, etc....)
> > >>
> > >> Do you want me to change anything here?
> > >
> > > I think the concern is that if the PT_INTERP name is the same for
> > > binaries with different ABIs, you wouldn't be able to have both
> > > present in the same root fs, and this would make it more of a pain to
> > > debug fdpic binaries on a full (with-mmu) host.
> > >
> > > musl always uses a different PT_INTERP name for each ABI combination,
> > > so I guess the question is whether uclibc or whatever other libc
> > > you're intending people to use would also want to do this.
> >
> > glibc uses different names now for new abis, so i was expecting
> > some *_DYNAMIC_LINKER update, but it seems uclibc always uses
> > the same fixed name
> >
> > /lib/ld-uClibc.so.0
> >
> > i guess it makes sense for them since iirc uclibc can change
> > its runtime abi based on lot of build time config so having
> > different name for each abi variant may be impractical.
>
> Yes, this "feature" of uclibc was was of the key motivations behind
> the creation of musl... :-)
>

Hi,

I discussed a bit further with Szabolcs on irc, and tried to get some
feedback from uclibc-ng community (none so far)

I propose the following 2 patches on top of this one to address part
of the concerns:
diff --git a/gcc/config/arm/linux-eabi.h b/gcc/config/arm/linux-eabi.h
index 67edb42..d7cc923 100644
--- a/gcc/config/arm/linux-eabi.h
+++ b/gcc/config/arm/linux-eabi.h
@@ -89,7 +89,7 @@
 #define MUSL_DYNAMIC_LINKER_E "%{mbig-endian:eb}"
 #endif
 #define MUSL_DYNAMIC_LINKER \
-  "/lib/ld-musl-arm" MUSL_DYNAMIC_LINKER_E "%{mfloat-abi=hard:hf}.so.1"
+  "/lib/ld-musl-arm" MUSL_DYNAMIC_LINKER_E
"%{mfloat-abi=hard:hf}%{mfdpic:-fdpic}.so.1"

 /* At this point, bpabi.h will have clobbered LINK_SPEC.  We want to
    use the GNU/Linux version, not the generic BPABI version.  */

diff --git a/libsanitizer/configure.tgt b/libsanitizer/configure.tgt
index c38b3f4..92bca69 100644
--- a/libsanitizer/configure.tgt
+++ b/libsanitizer/configure.tgt
@@ -45,7 +45,7 @@ case "${target}" in
        ;;
   sparc*-*-solaris2.11*)
        ;;
-  arm*-*-uclinuxfdpiceabi)
+  arm*-*-fdpiceabi)
        UNSUPPORTED=1
        ;;
   arm*-*-linux*)

However, regarding -staic/-static-pie, it seems I have several options:
(a) add support for static-pie to uclibc-ng. This means creating a new
rcrt1.o or similar, which would embed parts of the dynamic linker into
static-pie executables. This seems to involve quite a bit of work

(b) add support for FDPIC on arm to musl, which I'm not familiar with

(c) declare -static not supported on arm-FDPIC

(d) gather consensus that -static with pt_interp is ok (my preference,
since that's what the current patches do :-)

At this point, I'd prefer to stick with (d), or (c), to avoid further delaying
inclusion of FDPIC support for arm in GCC, and address improvements
later, so that it's not a constantly moving target.

Thanks,

Christophe

  reply	other threads:[~2019-05-21 15:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-15 12:40 [ARM/FDPIC v5 00/21] FDPIC ABI for ARM Christophe Lyon
2019-05-15 12:40 ` [ARM/FDPIC v5 01/21] [ARM] FDPIC: Add -mfdpic option support Christophe Lyon
2019-07-16 10:18   ` Richard Sandiford
2019-08-29 15:08     ` Christophe Lyon
2019-08-30 10:06       ` Richard Sandiford
2019-05-15 12:41 ` [ARM/FDPIC v5 03/21] [ARM] FDPIC: Force FDPIC related options unless -mno-fdpic is provided Christophe Lyon
2019-05-15 13:55   ` Szabolcs Nagy
2019-05-15 14:37     ` Rich Felker
2019-05-15 15:12       ` Christophe Lyon
2019-05-15 15:37         ` Rich Felker
2019-05-15 15:59           ` Szabolcs Nagy
2019-05-15 16:07             ` Rich Felker
2019-05-21 15:29               ` Christophe Lyon [this message]
2019-05-21 15:48                 ` Rich Felker
2019-05-22  8:39                 ` Szabolcs Nagy
2019-05-22  8:45                   ` Christophe Lyon
2019-05-23 12:45                     ` Christophe Lyon
2019-07-16 10:38                       ` Richard Sandiford
2019-07-16 20:00                         ` Rich Felker
2019-08-01 10:13                         ` Christophe Lyon
2019-08-06 14:28                           ` Richard Sandiford
2019-08-29 15:14                         ` Christophe Lyon
2019-08-30  9:40                           ` Richard Sandiford
2019-05-15 12:41 ` [ARM/FDPIC v5 04/21] [ARM] FDPIC: Add support for FDPIC for arm architecture Christophe Lyon
2019-07-16 12:33   ` Richard Sandiford
2019-08-20 17:13     ` Christophe Lyon
2019-08-29 15:39     ` Christophe Lyon
2019-09-02 16:12       ` Richard Sandiford
2019-09-02 20:04         ` Christophe Lyon
2019-09-03  8:40           ` Richard Sandiford
2019-09-04 19:59             ` Christophe Lyon
2019-09-05  8:03               ` Richard Sandiford
2019-05-15 12:41 ` [ARM/FDPIC v5 05/21] [ARM] FDPIC: Fix __do_global_dtors_aux and frame_dummy generation Christophe Lyon
2019-07-12  6:49   ` Richard Sandiford
2019-07-12 14:25     ` Christophe Lyon
2019-08-29 15:39     ` Christophe Lyon
2019-08-30  8:41       ` Richard Sandiford
2019-05-15 12:41 ` [ARM/FDPIC v5 02/21] [ARM] FDPIC: Handle arm*-*-uclinuxfdpiceabi in configure scripts Christophe Lyon
2019-07-12  7:44   ` Richard Sandiford
2019-07-12 13:25     ` Christophe Lyon
2019-07-12 13:28       ` Richard Sandiford
2019-08-29 15:14     ` Christophe Lyon
2019-08-30  9:30       ` Richard Sandiford
2019-08-30 14:48         ` Christophe Lyon
2019-08-30 15:15           ` Richard Sandiford
2019-09-02  7:51             ` Christophe Lyon
2019-09-02  8:31               ` Richard Sandiford
2019-08-30 14:40       ` Jonathan Wakely
2019-05-15 12:42 ` [ARM/FDPIC v5 06/21] [ARM] FDPIC: Add support for c++ exceptions Christophe Lyon
2019-08-30  9:31   ` Kyrill Tkachov
2019-08-30 14:44     ` Jonathan Wakely
2019-05-15 12:42 ` [ARM/FDPIC v5 07/21] [ARM] FDPIC: Avoid saving/restoring r9 on stack since it is read-only Christophe Lyon
2019-07-16 10:42   ` Kyrill Tkachov
2019-05-15 12:43 ` [ARM/FDPIC v5 08/21] [ARM] FDPIC: Enforce local/global binding for function descriptors Christophe Lyon
2019-07-16 10:51   ` Kyrill Tkachov
2019-05-15 12:43 ` [ARM/FDPIC v5 09/21] [ARM] FDPIC: Add support for taking address of nested function Christophe Lyon
2019-07-16 11:53   ` Kyrill Tkachov
2019-07-16 13:31     ` Kyrill Tkachov
2019-07-31 14:48       ` Christophe Lyon
2019-08-29 15:40         ` Christophe Lyon
2019-08-30  8:54           ` Kyrill Tkachov
2019-05-15 12:43 ` [ARM/FDPIC v5 10/21] [ARM] FDPIC: Implement TLS support Christophe Lyon
2019-09-04 14:16   ` Kyrill Tkachov
2019-09-04 20:03     ` Christophe Lyon
2019-09-09  8:54       ` Christophe Lyon
2019-05-15 12:44 ` [ARM/FDPIC v5 13/21] [ARM] FDPIC: Force LSB bit for PC in Cortex-M architecture Christophe Lyon
2019-08-29 15:37   ` Kyrill Tkachov
2019-09-05  8:30     ` Christophe Lyon
2019-09-05  8:32       ` Christophe Lyon
2019-09-05 20:56         ` Ian Lance Taylor
2019-09-05  9:03       ` Kyrill Tkachov
2019-09-09  8:58         ` Christophe Lyon
2019-05-15 12:44 ` [ARM/FDPIC v5 12/21] [ARM] FDPIC: Restore r9 after we call __aeabi_read_tp Christophe Lyon
2019-08-29 15:40   ` Christophe Lyon
2019-08-29 15:44   ` Kyrill Tkachov
2019-05-15 12:44 ` [ARM/FDPIC v5 11/21] [ARM] FDPIC: Add support to unwind FDPIC signal frame Christophe Lyon
2019-09-04 14:19   ` Kyrill Tkachov
2019-05-15 12:45 ` [ARM/FDPIC v5 14/21] [ARM][testsuite] FDPIC: Skip unsupported tests Christophe Lyon
2019-07-19  8:52   ` Kyrill Tkachov
2019-05-15 12:45 ` [ARM/FDPIC v5 16/21] [ARM][testsuite] FDPIC: Skip tests that don't work in PIC mode Christophe Lyon
2019-07-19  8:56   ` Kyrill Tkachov
2019-05-15 12:45 ` [ARM/FDPIC v5 15/21] [ARM][testsuite] FDPIC: Adjust scan-assembler patterns Christophe Lyon
2019-07-19  8:54   ` Kyrill Tkachov
2019-05-15 12:46 ` [ARM/FDPIC v5 18/21] [ARM][testsuite] FDPIC: Enable tests on pie_enabled targets Christophe Lyon
2019-07-19  8:59   ` Kyrill Tkachov
2019-07-22 19:50     ` Mike Stump
2019-05-15 12:46 ` [ARM/FDPIC v5 17/21] [ARM][testsuite] FDPIC: Handle *-*-uclinux* Christophe Lyon
2019-07-19  8:57   ` Kyrill Tkachov
2019-07-22 19:37     ` Mike Stump
2019-05-15 12:46 ` [ARM/FDPIC v5 19/21] [ARM][testsuite] FDPIC: Adjust pr43698.c to avoid clash with uclibc Christophe Lyon
2019-07-19  9:00   ` Kyrill Tkachov
2019-05-15 12:47 ` [ARM/FDPIC v5 20/21] [ARM][testsuite] FDPIC: Skip tests using architectures unsupported by FDPIC Christophe Lyon
2019-07-19  9:03   ` Kyrill Tkachov
2019-09-06  8:01     ` Christophe Lyon
2019-09-06  8:28       ` Kyrill Tkachov
2019-09-06  9:10         ` Christophe Lyon
2019-09-06 17:44           ` Christophe Lyon
2019-09-09  8:38             ` Christophe Lyon
2019-05-15 12:47 ` [ARM/FDPIC v5 21/21] [ARM] FDPIC: Handle stack-protector combined patterns Christophe Lyon
2019-07-19  9:40   ` Kyrill Tkachov
2019-05-23 12:46 ` [ARM/FDPIC v5 00/21] FDPIC ABI for ARM Christophe Lyon
2019-06-04 12:57   ` Christophe Lyon
2019-06-06 12:36     ` Christophe Lyon
2019-06-17 11:42       ` Christophe Lyon
2019-07-01 12:16         ` Christophe Lyon
2019-07-08 14:28           ` Christophe Lyon
2019-07-16  9:13             ` Christophe Lyon
2019-08-29 14:54 ` Christophe Lyon
2019-08-29 16:29   ` Christophe Lyon

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