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From: Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>
To: Ramana Radhakrishnan <Ramana.Radhakrishnan@arm.com>
Cc: James.Greenhalgh@arm.com,
	Richard Earnshaw <Richard.Earnshaw@arm.com>,
		Marcus Shawcroft <Marcus.Shawcroft@arm.com>,
	gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org, 	Will Deacon <Will.Deacon@arm.com>,
	Mark Rutland <Mark.Rutland@arm.com>, nd <nd@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC][AArch64] Add support for system register based stack protector canary access
Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2018 16:40:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKv+Gu_BFGeBGigvyV8uaQ-GOeY_AY=PoFm53nY8ye37ZTDtsw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7a5a57fa-629d-d2ff-6292-e0893647ec8a@arm.com>

On Mon, 3 Dec 2018 at 10:55, Ramana Radhakrishnan
<Ramana.Radhakrishnan@arm.com> wrote:
>
> For quite sometime the kernel guys, (more specifically Ard) have been
> talking about using a system register (sp_el0) and an offset from that
> for a canary based access. This patchset adds support for a new set of
> command line options similar to how powerpc has done this.
>
> I don't intend to change the defaults in userland, we've discussed this
> for user-land in the past and as far as glibc and userland is concerned
> we stick to the options as currently existing. The system register
> option is really for the kernel to use along with an offset as they
> control their ABI and this is a decision for them to make.
>
> I did consider sticking this all under a mcmodel=kernel-small option but
> thought that would be a bit too aggressive. There is very little error
> checking I can do in terms of the system register being used and really
> the assembler would barf quite quickly in case things go wrong. I've
> managed to rebuild Ard's kernel tree with an additional patch that
> I will send to him. I haven't managed to boot this kernel.
>
> There was an additional question asked about the performance
> characteristics of this but it's a security feature and the kernel
> doesn't have the luxury of a hidden symbol. Further since the kernel
> uses sp_el0 for access everywhere and if they choose to use the same
> register I don't think the performance characteristics would be too bad,
> but that's a decision for the kernel folks to make when taking in the
> feature into the kernel.
>
> I still need to add some tests and documentation in invoke.texi but
> this is at the stage where it would be nice for some other folks
> to look at this.
>
> The difference in code generated is as below.
>
> extern void bar (char *);
> int foo (void)
> {
>    char a[100];
>    bar (&a);
> }
>
> $GCC -O2  -fstack-protector-strong  vs
> -mstack-protector-guard-reg=sp_el0 -mstack-protector-guard=sysreg
> -mstack-protector-guard-offset=1024 -fstack-protector-strong
>
>
> --- tst.s       2018-12-03 09:46:21.174167443 +0000
> +++ tst.s.1     2018-12-03 09:46:03.546257203 +0000
> @@ -15,15 +15,14 @@
>         mov     x29, sp
>         str     x19, [sp, 16]
>         .cfi_offset 19, -128
> -       adrp    x19, __stack_chk_guard
> -       add     x19, x19, :lo12:__stack_chk_guard
> -       ldr     x0, [x19]
> -       str     x0, [sp, 136]
> -       mov     x0,0
> +       mrs     x19, sp_el0
>         add     x0, sp, 32
> +       ldr     x1, [x19, 1024]
> +       str     x1, [sp, 136]
> +       mov     x1,0
>         bl      bar
>         ldr     x0, [sp, 136]
> -       ldr     x1, [x19]
> +       ldr     x1, [x19, 1024]
>         eor     x1, x0, x1
>         cbnz    x1, .L5
>
>
>
>
> I will be afk tomorrow and day after but this is to elicit some comments
> and for Ard to try this out with his kernel patches.
>

Thanks Ramana. I managed to build and run a complete kernel (including
modules) on a bare metal system, and everything works as expected.

The only thing I'd like to confirm with you is the logic wrt the
command line arguments, more specifically, if/when all 3 arguments
have to appear, and whether they are permitted to appear if
-fstack-protector is not set.

This is relevant given that we invoke the compiler in 3 different ways:
- at the configure stage, we invoke the compiler with some/all of
these options to decide whether the feature is supported, but the
actual offset is not known, but also irrelevant
- we invoke the compiler to build the header file that actually gives
us the offset to pass to later invocations
- finally, all kernel objects are built with all 3 arguments passed on
the command line

It looks like your code permits -mstack-protector-guard-reg at any
time, but only permits -mstack-protector-guard-offset if
-mstack-protector-guard is set to sysreg (and thus set explicitly,
since the default is global). Is that intentional? Can we expect this
to remain like that?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-12-03 16:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-12-03  9:55 Ramana Radhakrishnan
2018-12-03  9:59 ` Jakub Jelinek
2018-12-03 10:03   ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2018-12-03 15:31 ` Florian Weimer
2018-12-03 16:40 ` Ard Biesheuvel [this message]
2019-01-10 16:53   ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2019-01-10 10:53 ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2019-01-10 11:05   ` Jakub Jelinek
2019-01-10 12:51     ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2019-01-10 15:49 ` James Greenhalgh
2019-01-10 15:55   ` Will Deacon
2019-01-10 16:49   ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2019-01-19 17:30 ` Jakub Jelinek
2018-12-04  3:51 Wilco Dijkstra
2018-12-04 12:58 ` Florian Weimer
2018-12-07 14:51   ` Ramana Radhakrishnan

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