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From: Richard Biener <richard.guenther@gmail.com>
To: gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org,Paul Koning
	<paulkoning@comcast.net>,Richard Earnshaw
	<Richard.Earnshaw@arm.com>
Cc: GCC Patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 09/11] pdp11 - example of a port not needing a speculation barrier
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2018 15:19:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <E9C0BCD7-10A1-4DF9-937C-D1E5F584D8DA@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DA7F54FD-3DB8-4133-A0BB-DB3020E0A9F8@comcast.net>

On July 27, 2018 3:27:49 PM GMT+02:00, Paul Koning <paulkoning@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>> On Jul 27, 2018, at 5:37 AM, Richard Earnshaw
><Richard.Earnshaw@arm.com> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> This patch is intended as an example of all that is needed if the
>> target system doesn't support CPUs that have speculative execution.
>> I've chosen the pdp11 port on the basis that it's old enough that
>this
>> is likely to be true for all existing implementations and that there
>> is also little chance of that changing in future!
>> 
>> 	* config/pdp11/pdp11.c (TARGET_HAVE_SPECULATION_SAFE_VALUE):
>Redefine
>> 	to speculation_safe_value_not_needed.
>> ---
>> gcc/config/pdp11/pdp11.c | 3 +++
>> 1 file changed, 3 insertions(+)
>> 
>> <0009-pdp11-example-of-a-port-not-needing-a-speculation-ba.patch>
>
>Correct, no speculative instruction now, and I don't think any of the
>people constructing PDP11s (yes there are some) are going to be adding
>it.

It's not really about speculative instructions but about things like having a branch predictor and ways to recover from badly predicted ones and thus from wrongly speculatively executed regular instructions. 

Probably every pipelined CPU implementation nowadays has speculative execution. 

Richard. 

>Thanks Richard.
>
>	paul

  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-27 15:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-09 16:39 [PATCH 0/7] Mitigation against unsafe data speculation (CVE-2017-5753) Richard Earnshaw
2018-07-09 16:39 ` [PATCH 5/7] AArch64 - disable CB[N]Z TB[N]Z when tracking speculation Richard Earnshaw
2018-07-09 16:39 ` [PATCH 2/7] Arm - add speculation_barrier pattern Richard Earnshaw
2018-07-09 16:39 ` [PATCH 4/7] AArch64 - Add new option -mtrack-speculation Richard Earnshaw
2018-07-09 16:39 ` [PATCH 6/7] AArch64 - new pass to add conditional-branch speculation tracking Richard Earnshaw
2018-07-11 21:01   ` Jeff Law
2018-07-23 14:33     ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2018-07-24 21:31       ` Jeff Law
2018-07-09 16:39 ` [PATCH 1/7] Add __builtin_speculation_safe_value Richard Earnshaw
2018-07-23 14:28   ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2018-07-24 17:26   ` Richard Biener
2018-07-25  9:49     ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2018-07-25 10:36       ` Richard Biener
2018-07-25 12:41         ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2018-07-25 13:47           ` Richard Biener
2018-07-26 10:03             ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2018-07-26 12:41               ` Richard Biener
2018-07-26 13:06                 ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2018-07-26 13:13                   ` Richard Biener
2018-07-26 23:34           ` Joseph Myers
2018-07-27  0:46             ` Paul Koning
2018-07-27  8:59               ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2018-07-27 10:59                 ` Joseph Myers
2018-07-25 18:03     ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2018-07-26  8:42       ` Richard Biener
2018-07-09 16:39 ` [PATCH 3/7] AArch64 - add speculation barrier Richard Earnshaw
2018-07-09 16:39 ` [PATCH 7/7] AArch64 - use CSDB based sequences if speculation tracking is enabled Richard Earnshaw
2018-07-09 23:13 ` [PATCH 0/7] Mitigation against unsafe data speculation (CVE-2017-5753) Jeff Law
2018-07-10  8:49   ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2018-07-10 13:48     ` Bill Schmidt
2018-07-10 14:14       ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2018-07-10 15:44         ` Jeff Law
2018-07-10 15:42     ` Jeff Law
2018-07-10 16:43       ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2018-07-11 20:47         ` Jeff Law
2018-07-11 22:31           ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2018-07-10  7:19 ` Richard Biener
2018-07-10  8:39   ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2018-07-10 10:10     ` Richard Biener
2018-07-10 10:53       ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2018-07-10 11:22         ` Richard Biener
2018-07-10 13:43           ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2018-07-10 15:56         ` Jeff Law
2018-07-27  9:38 ` [PATCH 00/11] (v2) " Richard Earnshaw
2018-07-27  9:38   ` [PATCH 05/11] AArch64 - disable CB[N]Z TB[N]Z when tracking speculation Richard Earnshaw
2018-07-27  9:38   ` [PATCH 04/11] AArch64 - Add new option -mtrack-speculation Richard Earnshaw
2018-07-27  9:38   ` [PATCH 08/11] targhooks - provide an alternative hook for targets that never execute speculatively Richard Earnshaw
2018-07-30 13:17     ` Richard Biener
2018-07-27  9:38   ` [PATCH 09/11] pdp11 - example of a port not needing a speculation barrier Richard Earnshaw
2018-07-27 13:27     ` Paul Koning
2018-07-27 15:19       ` Richard Biener [this message]
2018-07-27  9:38   ` [PATCH 06/11] AArch64 - new pass to add conditional-branch speculation tracking Richard Earnshaw
2018-07-27  9:38   ` [PATCH 10/11] x86 - add speculation_barrier pattern Richard Earnshaw
2018-07-28  8:25     ` Uros Bizjak
2018-07-31 23:15       ` H.J. Lu
2018-07-27  9:38   ` [PATCH 01/11] Add __builtin_speculation_safe_value Richard Earnshaw
2018-07-27 12:11     ` Nathan Sidwell
2018-07-27 12:32       ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2018-07-27 12:49         ` Nathan Sidwell
2018-07-27 12:53       ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2018-07-30 13:16     ` Richard Biener
2018-07-31 19:25       ` H.J. Lu
2018-07-31 20:51         ` Ian Lance Taylor via gcc-patches
2018-08-01  8:50           ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2018-08-01  8:54             ` Jakub Jelinek
2018-08-01  9:25               ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2018-07-27  9:38   ` [PATCH 07/11] AArch64 - use CSDB based sequences if speculation tracking is enabled Richard Earnshaw
2018-07-27  9:38   ` [PATCH 11/11] rs6000 - add speculation_barrier pattern Richard Earnshaw
2018-07-31 22:01     ` Bill Schmidt
2018-07-31 23:31       ` Segher Boessenkool
2018-07-27  9:38   ` [PATCH 02/11] Arm " Richard Earnshaw
2018-08-06 14:01     ` Christophe Lyon
2018-08-06 15:59       ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2018-07-27  9:38   ` [PATCH 03/11] AArch64 - add speculation barrier Richard Earnshaw
2018-07-27 19:49   ` [PATCH 00/11] (v2) Mitigation against unsafe data speculation (CVE-2017-5753) John David Anglin
2018-08-02 18:40     ` Jeff Law
2018-08-02 20:19       ` John David Anglin
2018-08-03  9:06         ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2018-08-06 21:52           ` John David Anglin
2018-08-07 14:05             ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2018-08-07 14:56               ` John David Anglin
2018-08-03 17:26         ` Jeff Law

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