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From: IainS <developer@sandoe-acoustics.co.uk>
To: Michael Matz <matz@suse.de>
Cc: Richard Guenther <richard.guenther@gmail.com>,
	       Nathan Sidwell <nathan@codesourcery.com>,
	       GCC Patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [gimple] assignments to volatile
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 14:17:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <F8F7EFE5-904D-4066-9F57-1757BB6D18CF@sandoe-acoustics.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1006211517460.11284@wotan.suse.de>


On 21 Jun 2010, at 14:30, Michael Matz wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Jun 2010, Richard Guenther wrote:
>
>>> I've come across inconsistent and surprising behaviour when  
>>> assigning
>>> to volatile lvalues.
>>>
>>> Sometimes we re-read the assigned-to object, and sometimes we do  
>>> not.  For
>>> instance,
>>>   return vobj = data;
>>> will cause a reread of vobj, IF data is not a constant.
>
> I'd consider the latter condition a bug.  I.e. the rereading must  
> happen
> in every case.  It must happen because in C the value of "lhs = rhs"  
> is
> that of reading 'lhs' ("An assignment expression has the value of  
> the left
> operand after the assignment, but is not an lvalue." 6.5.16), and if  
> lhs
> happens to be volatile than the abstract machine implies two  
> accesses to
> lhs, one write (of the assignment) and one read (to get to the value  
> of
> lhs).

that answers the "what" but not the "when".

Suppose that vobj was a hardware register ...

... I would expect that the assignment would write the value of expr  
to the register...

... but I would _not_ expect the register to be re-read (and, indeed,  
in many cases in hardware interaction - that could cause an issue).

or did I miss sth?
Iain

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-06-21 14:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-21 12:44 Nathan Sidwell
2010-06-21 13:26 ` Richard Guenther
2010-06-21 13:55   ` Michael Matz
2010-06-21 14:07     ` Richard Guenther
2010-06-21 14:09     ` Nathan Sidwell
2010-06-21 14:17       ` Michael Matz
2010-06-21 14:19         ` Richard Guenther
2010-06-21 14:53           ` Michael Matz
2010-06-21 14:17     ` IainS [this message]
2010-06-21 14:24       ` Michael Matz
2010-06-21 14:50         ` Nathan Sidwell
2010-06-21 15:24           ` Michael Matz
2010-06-22 11:36             ` Dave Korn
2010-06-23 20:16             ` Mike Stump
2010-06-24 11:51               ` Michael Matz
2010-06-21 15:24         ` Nathan Sidwell
2010-06-21 15:46           ` Michael Matz
2010-06-22 15:37     ` Mark Mitchell
2010-06-22 15:37       ` Jakub Jelinek
2010-06-22 15:57         ` Paul Koning
2010-06-22 15:47       ` Michael Matz
2010-06-22 15:58         ` Mark Mitchell
2010-06-23 11:38           ` Nathan Sidwell
2010-06-23 14:05             ` Mark Mitchell
2010-06-23 14:06               ` Michael Matz
2010-06-23 16:00                 ` Richard Guenther
2010-06-23 16:25               ` Paul Koning
2010-06-23 17:13                 ` Mark Mitchell
2010-06-23 19:16               ` Mike Stump
2010-06-24 10:22                 ` Mark Mitchell
2010-06-24 15:53                   ` Mike Stump
2010-06-24 16:00                     ` Mark Mitchell
2010-06-24 19:37                       ` Mike Stump
2010-06-25  9:37                         ` Nathan Sidwell
2010-06-25 19:06                           ` Mike Stump
2010-06-25 21:33                             ` Mark Mitchell
2010-06-26  9:35                               ` Mike Stump
2010-06-26 10:18                                 ` Mark Mitchell
2010-06-26 12:18                                   ` Richard Guenther
2010-06-26 19:52                                     ` Michael Matz
2010-06-26 19:57                                       ` Mark Mitchell
2010-06-26 20:08                                         ` Michael Matz
2010-06-26 22:13                                           ` Mark Mitchell
2010-06-28  9:20                                             ` Nathan Sidwell
2010-06-28  9:27                                               ` Nathan Sidwell
2010-06-26 10:20                                 ` Richard Kenner
2010-06-28  9:52                             ` Nathan Sidwell
2010-06-30 22:52                               ` Mike Stump
2010-07-05  8:59                                 ` Nathan Sidwell
2010-07-09  5:27                                   ` Mike Stump
2010-07-09  7:22                                     ` Nathan Sidwell
2010-07-16  8:10                                       ` Nathan Sidwell
2010-07-16 15:20                                         ` Mark Mitchell
2010-07-19  8:41                                           ` Nathan Sidwell
2010-08-13  9:56                                           ` Nathan Sidwell
2010-08-18 15:32                                             ` Mark Mitchell
2010-08-18 16:18                                               ` Richard Guenther
2010-08-18 18:04                                                 ` Mike Stump
2010-08-19 11:11                                               ` Nathan Sidwell
2010-08-20  4:22                                                 ` Mark Mitchell
2010-08-20 16:59                                                   ` Mike Stump
2010-08-20 18:00                                             ` H.J. Lu
2010-08-20 18:33                                               ` Nathan Sidwell
2010-06-25  9:20                       ` Nathan Sidwell
2010-06-24 10:23                 ` Nathan Sidwell
2010-06-24 17:05                   ` Mike Stump
2010-06-24 17:29                     ` Paul Koning
2010-06-25  9:26                     ` Nathan Sidwell
2010-06-25 18:20                       ` Mike Stump
2010-06-28  8:49                         ` Nathan Sidwell
2010-07-01  1:02                           ` Mike Stump
2010-07-05  9:02                             ` Nathan Sidwell
2010-07-09  5:14                               ` Mike Stump
2010-07-09  7:20                                 ` Nathan Sidwell
2010-06-22 15:56       ` Paul Koning
2010-06-22 12:08   ` Nathan Sidwell
2010-06-22 12:25     ` Richard Guenther
2010-06-22 13:12     ` Michael Matz
2010-06-22 13:54       ` Nathan Sidwell
2010-06-22 15:21         ` Michael Matz
2010-06-22 16:12           ` Joseph S. Myers

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