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From: Tehila Meyzels <TEHILA@il.ibm.com>
To: gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org, gcc@gcc.gnu.org
Cc: Michael Matz <matz@suse.de>,
	trevor_smigiel@playstation.sony.com,
	        Revital1 Eres <ERES@il.ibm.com>,
	        Ulrich Weigand <Ulrich.Weigand@de.ibm.com>,
	        Victor Kaplansky <VICTORK@il.ibm.com>,
	        "CN=dpatel@apple.dot.com, Dorit Nuzman/OU=Haifa/OU=IBM,
	Ayal Zaks/OU=Haifa/O=IBM <dpatel%IBMI"@il.ibm.com
Subject: [RFC] Improve Tree-SSA if-conversion - convergence of efforts
Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2007 14:51:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <OFE09A65AE.6EB97FFD-ONC2257329.004AA175-C2257329.004B47FB@il.ibm.com> (raw)


Hi,

I'd like to bring up on the list a discussion that a bunch of people (most
of those CC-ed above) started at the GCC Summit:

Lately, there were few efforts, that are not necessarily related to each
other, but are all relevant to if-conversion.
Each of them has its own restriction, like a specific control-flow, target
dependent information, permission to transform speculative loads, etc.

Few patches that I'm aware of are:
1.  Conditional store sinking, by Michael Matz:
http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-patches/2007-04/msg00724.html

2. If -conversion for multiple IF_THEN_ELSE clauses, by Victor Kaplansky:
http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-patches/2006-05/msg00265.html
Also mentioned here:  http://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/AutovectBranchOptimizations
(2.3.3)

3.  (unconditional) Store sinking (4.1.1 based), by Revital Eres and Victor
Kaplansky:
http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-patches/2006-05/msg00265.html (same patch as
previous)
Also mentioned here:  http://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/AutovectBranchOptimizations
(2.3.2)

4. Conditional load hoisting (4.1.1 based), by myself:
http://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-patches/2007-07/msg02168.html

5. Maybe more?

You're welcome to share your/others related works here...


I'd like to suggest to converge all these efforts into a single improved
tree-level if-conversion pass (i.e., on the top of tree-if-conv.c).
Currently, the tree-level if-conversion pass is quite limited in several
ways, and mostly with respect to handling of loads/stores (it basically
doesn't handle them), but not only.

There are several reasons why to store-sinking and load-hoisting should be
combined with the if-conversion pass:
1. Store-sinking/load hoisting effect one another and they both can create
new opportunities for if-conversion (not only in vectorizable loops, for
example).
    Currently, load-store motion pass happens too late and thus don't help
the (tree-ssa) if-converter.
2. Store-sinking/load hoisting may have an overhead and may degrade
performance unless the relevant conditional branch gets if-converted.

Issues/Questions to be considered and discussed:
1. Cost model and machine dependency issues:
    - When is it profitable to perform these motions? What is the algorithm
to decide whether there is a good chance for if-conversion?
    - Target dependency - What to check?
      A. Are there scalar select/cmove/predicated instructions  (like in
SPU)?
      B. Are there vector select/cmove/predicated instructions (like in
PowerPC)? + will  the loop be vectorized?
      C. Are speculative loads allowed? Do memory accesses trap?
      D. More?

2. Which transformations we want to take care of in this pass?
   A. Conditional/unconditional loads/stores.
   B. PHI nodes with operands that are neither constants nor SSA NAMES
(Currently, this is not supported in tree-if-conv.c).
   C. PHIOPT transformations (i.e., merge the PHIOPT pass into this pass
maybe)?
   D More?
3. New control-flow graphs we want to support (besides the regular
IF_THEN_ELSE, diamond-based):
    A. Nested diamonds.
    B. Sequential diamonds.
    C. More?
4. After we complete this pass, will the RTL-level ifcvt be needed?
    I guess the answer is yes, but I would like to hear more opinions.

Any comments/ideas/thoughts are really appreciated.

Thanks,
Tehila.


             reply	other threads:[~2007-07-31 13:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-07-31 14:51 Tehila Meyzels [this message]
2007-07-31 15:12 ` Daniel Berlin
2007-07-31 15:14   ` Michael Matz
2007-08-06 12:16     ` Tehila Meyzels
2007-08-06 14:31       ` Michael Matz
2007-08-01 11:02   ` Tehila Meyzels
2007-08-01 15:27     ` Daniel Berlin
2007-08-01 18:52       ` Ayal Zaks
2007-08-01 19:59         ` Daniel Berlin
2007-09-12 22:10 ` trevor_smigiel
2007-09-13 10:07   ` Richard Guenther
2007-09-13 10:55   ` Michael Matz

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