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From: Michael Matz <matz@suse.de>
To: Mark Mitchell <mark@codesourcery.com>
Cc: Richard Guenther <richard.guenther@gmail.com>,
	Nathan Sidwell <nathan@codesourcery.com>,
	GCC Patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [gimple] assignments to volatile
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 2010 15:47:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1006221721590.18619@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4C20D40B.30904@codesourcery.com>

Hi,

On Tue, 22 Jun 2010, Mark Mitchell wrote:

> I think that it's without question that:
> 
>   vobj = data;
> 
> should not cause a read from vobj; the value is not used.  I think
> real-world embedded programmers would be surprised to see a read from an
> I/O register there.  Do you agree?

Yes.

>   cond ? vobj = data : ...
> 
> should not cause a read from vobj.
> 
> Do you agree?

Yes.

> The case of:
>   x = vobj = data;
> 
> is different because the value is being used.  In that case, I have no
> strong opinion.
> 
> Rather than argue about this last case in theory, though, I'd be
> inclined to look at existing practice.  What do RealView, CodeWarrior,
> Green Hills or other long-standing compilers for embedded systems do?

That would be interesting, yes.

> If there's a clear consensus, we can follow that.


Ciao,
Michael.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-06-22 15:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 81+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-21 12:44 Nathan Sidwell
2010-06-21 13:26 ` Richard Guenther
2010-06-21 13:55   ` Michael Matz
2010-06-21 14:07     ` Richard Guenther
2010-06-21 14:09     ` Nathan Sidwell
2010-06-21 14:17       ` Michael Matz
2010-06-21 14:19         ` Richard Guenther
2010-06-21 14:53           ` Michael Matz
2010-06-21 14:17     ` IainS
2010-06-21 14:24       ` Michael Matz
2010-06-21 14:50         ` Nathan Sidwell
2010-06-21 15:24           ` Michael Matz
2010-06-22 11:36             ` Dave Korn
2010-06-23 20:16             ` Mike Stump
2010-06-24 11:51               ` Michael Matz
2010-06-21 15:24         ` Nathan Sidwell
2010-06-21 15:46           ` Michael Matz
2010-06-22 15:37     ` Mark Mitchell
2010-06-22 15:37       ` Jakub Jelinek
2010-06-22 15:57         ` Paul Koning
2010-06-22 15:47       ` Michael Matz [this message]
2010-06-22 15:58         ` Mark Mitchell
2010-06-23 11:38           ` Nathan Sidwell
2010-06-23 14:05             ` Mark Mitchell
2010-06-23 14:06               ` Michael Matz
2010-06-23 16:00                 ` Richard Guenther
2010-06-23 16:25               ` Paul Koning
2010-06-23 17:13                 ` Mark Mitchell
2010-06-23 19:16               ` Mike Stump
2010-06-24 10:22                 ` Mark Mitchell
2010-06-24 15:53                   ` Mike Stump
2010-06-24 16:00                     ` Mark Mitchell
2010-06-24 19:37                       ` Mike Stump
2010-06-25  9:37                         ` Nathan Sidwell
2010-06-25 19:06                           ` Mike Stump
2010-06-25 21:33                             ` Mark Mitchell
2010-06-26  9:35                               ` Mike Stump
2010-06-26 10:18                                 ` Mark Mitchell
2010-06-26 12:18                                   ` Richard Guenther
2010-06-26 19:52                                     ` Michael Matz
2010-06-26 19:57                                       ` Mark Mitchell
2010-06-26 20:08                                         ` Michael Matz
2010-06-26 22:13                                           ` Mark Mitchell
2010-06-28  9:20                                             ` Nathan Sidwell
2010-06-28  9:27                                               ` Nathan Sidwell
2010-06-26 10:20                                 ` Richard Kenner
2010-06-28  9:52                             ` Nathan Sidwell
2010-06-30 22:52                               ` Mike Stump
2010-07-05  8:59                                 ` Nathan Sidwell
2010-07-09  5:27                                   ` Mike Stump
2010-07-09  7:22                                     ` Nathan Sidwell
2010-07-16  8:10                                       ` Nathan Sidwell
2010-07-16 15:20                                         ` Mark Mitchell
2010-07-19  8:41                                           ` Nathan Sidwell
2010-08-13  9:56                                           ` Nathan Sidwell
2010-08-18 15:32                                             ` Mark Mitchell
2010-08-18 16:18                                               ` Richard Guenther
2010-08-18 18:04                                                 ` Mike Stump
2010-08-19 11:11                                               ` Nathan Sidwell
2010-08-20  4:22                                                 ` Mark Mitchell
2010-08-20 16:59                                                   ` Mike Stump
2010-08-20 18:00                                             ` H.J. Lu
2010-08-20 18:33                                               ` Nathan Sidwell
2010-06-25  9:20                       ` Nathan Sidwell
2010-06-24 10:23                 ` Nathan Sidwell
2010-06-24 17:05                   ` Mike Stump
2010-06-24 17:29                     ` Paul Koning
2010-06-25  9:26                     ` Nathan Sidwell
2010-06-25 18:20                       ` Mike Stump
2010-06-28  8:49                         ` Nathan Sidwell
2010-07-01  1:02                           ` Mike Stump
2010-07-05  9:02                             ` Nathan Sidwell
2010-07-09  5:14                               ` Mike Stump
2010-07-09  7:20                                 ` Nathan Sidwell
2010-06-22 15:56       ` Paul Koning
2010-06-22 12:08   ` Nathan Sidwell
2010-06-22 12:25     ` Richard Guenther
2010-06-22 13:12     ` Michael Matz
2010-06-22 13:54       ` Nathan Sidwell
2010-06-22 15:21         ` Michael Matz
2010-06-22 16:12           ` Joseph S. Myers

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