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From: Michael Matz <matz@suse.de>
To: Richard Kenner <kenner@vlsi1.ultra.nyu.edu>
Cc: dnovillo@google.com, davidxl@google.com, ebotcazou@gnat.com,
	gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org, hubicka@ucw.cz, joseph@codesourcery.com,
	richard.guenther@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [google]: initialize language field for clone function struct
Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 13:16:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.1105041507160.1989@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <11105041230.AA02337@vlsi1.ultra.nyu.edu>

Hi,

On Wed, 4 May 2011, Richard Kenner wrote:

> > There are pros and cons about early optimization, actually.
> > Generating extremely optimized IL very early can actually tie up
> > subsequent passes.  For instance, loop unrolling and vectorization.
> > There are others in the literature.
> 
> Sure, in the sorts of examples you mention where there's a level of
> "globality" to it.  But I don't see it in the types of things that
> fold does.  How could it ever be better to leave "a - a" in the tree
> instead of "0"?

The former is not a constant expression in the C sense, hence folding it 
early disables required diagnostics; that's what Joseph means when he says 
that the frontends should fold only exactly those things that the language 
standard requires, implying not a general catch-all folder.  After the 
frontend is ready with a construct we can do all kinds of foldings as 
early as we like.


Ciao,
Michael.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-05-04 13:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-04-30  1:34 Xinliang David Li
2011-05-02 22:13 ` Xinliang David Li
2011-05-03 10:55   ` Jan Hubicka
2011-05-03 16:15     ` Xinliang David Li
2011-05-03 16:46       ` Jan Hubicka
2011-05-03 18:55         ` Eric Botcazou
2011-05-03 19:07           ` Joseph S. Myers
2011-05-03 19:16             ` Nathan Froyd
2011-05-03 19:51               ` Joseph S. Myers
2011-05-03 20:05                 ` Nathan Froyd
2011-05-03 19:52             ` Eric Botcazou
2011-05-03 20:09               ` Joseph S. Myers
2011-05-03 20:36                 ` Eric Botcazou
2011-05-03 21:27                   ` Joseph S. Myers
2011-05-04  8:53                     ` Eric Botcazou
2011-05-04 17:27                     ` Tom Tromey
2011-05-04  9:52       ` Richard Guenther
2011-05-04 10:02         ` Eric Botcazou
2011-05-04 10:30           ` Joseph S. Myers
2011-05-04 11:01             ` Eric Botcazou
2011-05-04 11:50             ` Richard Kenner
2011-05-04 12:23               ` Diego Novillo
2011-05-04 12:27                 ` Richard Kenner
2011-05-04 12:31                   ` Diego Novillo
2011-05-04 13:16                   ` Michael Matz [this message]
2011-05-04 13:22                   ` Nathan Froyd
2011-05-04 13:26                     ` Diego Novillo
2011-05-04 13:39                       ` Richard Kenner
2011-05-04 11:19           ` Richard Guenther
2011-05-04 12:00             ` Michael Matz
2011-05-04 12:08               ` Richard Guenther
2011-05-04 15:33             ` Eric Botcazou
2011-05-04 16:05               ` Richard Guenther
2011-05-04 17:22                 ` Eric Botcazou
2011-05-05  9:07                   ` Richard Guenther
2011-05-05  9:25                     ` Eric Botcazou
2011-05-05  9:44                       ` Richard Guenther
2011-05-05 10:22                         ` Eric Botcazou
2011-05-05 11:03                           ` Richard Guenther
2011-05-05 11:59                             ` Eric Botcazou

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