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From: Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>
To: Martin Uecker <uecker@tugraz.at>
Cc: Bill Wendling <isanbard@gmail.com>,
	Qing Zhao <qing.zhao@oracle.com>,
	Richard Biener <richard.guenther@gmail.com>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Joseph Myers <joseph@codesourcery.com>,
	Siddhesh Poyarekar <siddhesh@gotplt.org>,
	GCC Patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: RFC: the proposal to resolve the missing dependency issue for counted_by attribute
Date: Fri, 3 Nov 2023 07:22:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ZUSRqHuO28MKzg0g@tucnak> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3df84ff288be72e6e6198e0221389395d53f2d63.camel@tugraz.at>

On Fri, Nov 03, 2023 at 07:07:36AM +0100, Martin Uecker wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, dem 02.11.2023 um 17:28 -0700 schrieb Bill Wendling:
> > On Thu, Nov 2, 2023 at 1:36 PM Qing Zhao <qing.zhao@oracle.com> wrote:
> > > 
> > > Thanks a lot for raising these issues.
> > > 
> > > If I understand correctly,  the major question we need to answer is:
> > > 
> > > For the following example: (Jakub mentioned this  in an early message)
> > > 
> > >   1 struct S { int a; char b __attribute__((counted_by (a))) []; };
> > >   2 struct S s;
> > >   3 s.a = 5;
> > >   4 char *p = &s.b[2];
> > >   5 int i1 = __builtin_dynamic_object_size (p, 0);
> > >   6 s.a = 3;
> > >   7 int i2 = __builtin_dynamic_object_size (p, 0);
> > > 
> > > Should the 2nd __bdos call (line 7) get
> > >         A. the latest value of s.a (line 6) for it’s size?
> > > Or      B. the value when the s.b was referenced (line 3, line 4)?
> > > 
> > I personally think it should be (A). The user is specifically
> > indicating that the size has somehow changed, and the compiler should
> > behave accordingly.
> 
> 
> One potential problem for A apart from the potential impact on
> optimization is that the information may get lost more
> easily. Consider:
> 
> char *p = &s.b[2];
> f(&s);
> int i = __bdos(p, 0);
> 
> If the compiler can not see into 'f', the information is lost
> because f may have changed the size.

Why?  It doesn't really matter.  The options are
A. p is at &s.b[2] associated with &s.a and int type (or size of int
   or whatever); .ACCESS_WITH_SIZE can't be pure, but sure, for aliasing
   POV we can describe it with more detail that it doesn't modify anything
   in the pointed structure, just escapes the pointer; __bdos can stay
   leaf I believe; and when expanding __bdos later on, it would just
   dereference the associated pointer at that point (note, __bdos is
   pure, so it has vuse but not vdef and can load from memory); if
   f changes s.a, no problem, __bdos will load the changed value in there
B. if .ACCESS_WITH_SIZE associates the pointer with the s.a value from that
   point, .ACCESS_WITH_SIZE can be const, but obviously if f changes s.a,
   __bdos later will use s.a value from the &s.b[2] spot

	Jakub


  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-03  6:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-31 16:26 Qing Zhao
2023-10-31 17:35 ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-10-31 18:35   ` Qing Zhao
2023-10-31 22:14 ` Joseph Myers
2023-11-01 14:47   ` Qing Zhao
2023-11-01 15:00     ` Martin Uecker
2023-11-01 15:48       ` Qing Zhao
2023-11-02  7:57     ` Richard Biener
2023-11-02  8:27       ` Jakub Jelinek
2023-11-02 10:18         ` Richard Biener
2023-11-02 10:39           ` Jakub Jelinek
2023-11-02 11:52             ` Richard Biener
2023-11-02 12:09               ` Jakub Jelinek
2023-11-02 20:35                 ` Qing Zhao
2023-11-03  0:28                   ` Bill Wendling
2023-11-03  6:07                     ` Martin Uecker
2023-11-03  6:22                       ` Jakub Jelinek [this message]
2023-11-03  6:32                         ` Martin Uecker
2023-11-03 16:20                           ` Qing Zhao
2023-11-03 16:30                             ` Jakub Jelinek
2023-11-03 16:36                               ` Qing Zhao
2023-11-03 14:32                         ` Qing Zhao
2023-11-03 14:46                           ` Jakub Jelinek
2023-11-03 15:22                             ` Qing Zhao
2023-11-03 19:33                     ` Qing Zhao
2023-11-02 20:47                 ` Qing Zhao
2023-11-02 20:45               ` Qing Zhao
2023-11-02 13:50       ` Qing Zhao
2023-11-02 13:54         ` Richard Biener
2023-11-02 14:26           ` Qing Zhao
2023-11-02 14:12         ` Martin Uecker
2023-11-02 15:41           ` Siddhesh Poyarekar
2023-11-03  0:13       ` Bill Wendling
2023-11-03 19:28         ` Qing Zhao

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