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From: Joseph Myers <joseph@codesourcery.com>
To: Jiong Wang <jiong.wang@foss.arm.com>
Cc: Matthew Wahab <matthew.wahab@foss.arm.com>,
	gcc-patches	<gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 9/17][ARM] Add NEON FP16 arithmetic instructions.
Date: Thu, 19 May 2016 17:29:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1605191724000.5422@digraph.polyomino.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <573DF151.8070508@foss.arm.com>

On Thu, 19 May 2016, Jiong Wang wrote:

> Then,
> 
>   * if we add scalar HF mode to standard patterns, vector HF modes operation
> will be
>     turned into scalar HF operations instead of scalar SF operations.
> 
>   * if we add vector HF mode to standard patterns, vector HF modes operations
> will
>     generate vector HF instructions directly.
> 
>   Will this still cause precision inconsistence with old gcc when there are
> cascade
>   vector float operations?

I'm not sure inconsistency with old GCC is what's relevant here.

Standard-named RTL patterns have particular semantics.  Those semantics do 
not depend on the target architecture (except where there are target 
macros / hooks to define such dependence).  If you have an instruction 
that matches those target-independent semantics, it should be available 
for the standard-named pattern.  I believe that is the case here, for both 
the scalar and the vector instructions - they have the standard semantics, 
so should be available for the standard patterns.

It is the responsibility of the target-independent parts of the compiler 
to ensure that the RTL generated matches the source code semantics, so 
that providing a standard pattern for an instruction that matches the 
pattern's semantics does not cause any problems regarding source code 
semantics.

That said: if the expander in old GCC is converting a vector HF operation 
into scalar SF operations, I'd expect it also to include a conversion from 
SFmode back to HFmode after those operations, since it will be producing a 
vector HF result.  And that would apply for each individual operation 
expanded.  So I would not expect inconsistency to arise from making direct 
HFmode operations available (given that the semantics of scalar + - * / 
are the same whether you do them directly on HFmode or promote to SFmode, 
do the operation there and then convert the result back to HFmode before 
doing any further operations on it).

-- 
Joseph S. Myers
joseph@codesourcery.com

  reply	other threads:[~2016-05-19 17:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-05-17 14:20 [PATCH 0/17][ARM] ARMv8.2-A and FP16 extension support Matthew Wahab
2016-05-17 14:23 ` [PATCH 1/17][ARM] Add ARMv8.2-A command line option and profile Matthew Wahab
2016-07-04 13:46   ` Matthew Wahab
2016-09-21 13:57     ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2016-05-17 14:25 ` [PATCH 2/17][Testsuite] Add a selector for ARM FP16 alternative format support Matthew Wahab
2016-07-27 13:34   ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2016-05-17 14:26 ` [PATCH 3/17][Testsuite] Add ARM support for ARMv8.2-A with FP16 arithmetic instructions Matthew Wahab
2016-07-04 13:49   ` Matthew Wahab
2016-07-27 13:34     ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2016-05-17 14:28 ` [PATCH 4/17][ARM] Define feature macros for FP16 Matthew Wahab
2016-07-27 13:35   ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2016-05-17 14:29 ` [PATCH 5/17][ARM] Enable HI mode moves for floating point values Matthew Wahab
2016-07-27 13:57   ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2016-09-26 13:20     ` Christophe Lyon
2016-09-26 13:26       ` Matthew Wahab
2016-05-17 14:32 ` [PATCH 6/17][ARM] Add data processing intrinsics for float16_t Matthew Wahab
2016-07-27 13:59   ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2016-09-25 14:44     ` Christophe Lyon
2016-09-26  9:56       ` Matthew Wahab
2016-09-26 12:54         ` Christophe Lyon
2016-09-26 13:11           ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2016-09-26 13:19             ` Matthew Wahab
2016-09-26 13:21             ` Christophe Lyon
2016-09-26 20:02               ` Christophe Lyon
2016-05-17 14:34 ` [PATCH 7/17][ARM] Add FP16 data movement instructions Matthew Wahab
2016-07-04 13:57   ` Matthew Wahab
2016-07-27 14:01     ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2016-05-17 14:36 ` [PATCH 8/17][ARM] Add VFP FP16 arithmetic instructions Matthew Wahab
2016-05-18  0:52   ` Joseph Myers
2016-05-18  0:57     ` Joseph Myers
2016-05-18 13:40     ` Matthew Wahab
2016-05-18 15:21       ` Joseph Myers
2016-05-19 14:54         ` Matthew Wahab
2016-07-04 14:02   ` Matthew Wahab
2016-07-28 11:37     ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2016-08-03 11:52       ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2016-08-03 13:10         ` Matthew Wahab
2016-08-03 14:45         ` James Greenhalgh
2016-08-03 17:44         ` Joseph Myers
2016-05-17 14:37 ` [PATCH 9/17][ARM] Add NEON " Matthew Wahab
2016-05-18  0:58   ` Joseph Myers
2016-05-19 17:01     ` Jiong Wang
2016-05-19 17:29       ` Joseph Myers [this message]
2016-06-08  8:46         ` James Greenhalgh
2016-06-08 20:02           ` Joseph Myers
2016-07-04 14:09     ` Matthew Wahab
2016-07-28 11:53       ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2016-05-17 14:39 ` [PATCH 10/17][ARM] Refactor support code for NEON builtins Matthew Wahab
2016-07-28 11:54   ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2016-12-05 16:47     ` [arm-embedded][committed][PATCH 10/17] " Andre Vieira (lists)
2016-05-17 14:41 ` [PATCH 11/17][ARM] Add builtins for VFP FP16 intrinsics Matthew Wahab
2016-07-04 14:12   ` Matthew Wahab
2016-07-28 11:55     ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2016-05-17 14:43 ` [PATCH 12/17][ARM] Add builtins for NEON " Matthew Wahab
2016-07-04 14:13   ` Matthew Wahab
2016-07-28 11:56     ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2016-05-17 14:44 ` [PATCH 13/17][ARM] Add VFP FP16 instrinsics Matthew Wahab
2016-07-04 14:14   ` Matthew Wahab
2016-07-28 11:57     ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2016-05-17 14:47 ` [PATCH 14/17][ARM] Add NEON " Matthew Wahab
2016-07-04 14:16   ` Matthew Wahab
2016-08-03 12:57     ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2016-05-17 14:49 ` [PATCH 15/17][ARM] Add tests for ARMv8.2-A FP16 support Matthew Wahab
2016-07-04 14:17   ` Matthew Wahab
2016-08-04  8:34     ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2016-05-17 14:51 ` [PATCH 16/17][ARM] Add tests for VFP FP16 ACLE instrinsics Matthew Wahab
2016-05-18  1:07   ` Joseph Myers
2016-05-18 10:58     ` Matthew Wahab
2016-07-04 14:18       ` Matthew Wahab
2016-08-04  8:35         ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2016-05-17 14:52 ` [PATCH 17/17][ARM] Add tests for NEON FP16 ACLE intrinsics Matthew Wahab
2016-07-04 14:22   ` Matthew Wahab
2016-08-04  9:01     ` Ramana Radhakrishnan

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