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From: Marc Glisse <marc.glisse@inria.fr>
To: Michael Matz <matz@suse.de>
Cc: Richard Biener <richard.guenther@gmail.com>,
	    GCC Patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>,
	Jeff Law <law@redhat.com>,
	    Feng Xue OS <fxue@os.amperecomputing.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Remove empty loop with assumed finiteness (PR tree-optimization/89713)
Date: Tue, 21 May 2019 08:06:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.21.1905210947090.13137@stedding.saclay.inria.fr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LSU.2.21.1905201442460.8064@wotan.suse.de>

On Mon, 20 May 2019, Michael Matz wrote:

> On Mon, 20 May 2019, Richard Biener wrote:
>
>>> The C++ standard says that do{}while(1) is __builtin_unreachable(), we
>>> don't have to preserve it. There is no mention of anything like a
>>> "nontrivial exit condition". Other languages may have a different
>>> opinion though, so it would probably need a flag indeed... But I am
>>> curious what the point of such a loop is.
>>
>> busy wait until wakeup by signal or interrupt.
>
> I'd actually turn it around from what C++ says.  If the user wrote, as
> is, "do{}while(1);" or "while(1);" or "for(;;);" then we can assume
> something funky going on and not remove the loop.  For any other loop we
> assume that they are finite.  I.e. we mark loops as to-be-preserved (which
> we set on a few known patterns), and just remove all other loops when they
> contain no observable side effects after optimization.

Seems sensible, although marking the trivial infinite loops in gimple 
seems simpler than doing it in the front-ends, and a good enough 
approximation unless we are willing to replace some other infinite loops 
with unreachable (or trap).

> And of course we'd still have to determine what acceptable side effects
> are.  E.g. in a pointer chasing loop containing no body, is the
> segfault when the pointer chain is not in fact circular, a side effect we
> should retain, or should we be allowed to remove the loop?  I'd say we
> should remove the loop, of course.

That may depend on flags like -fnon-call-exceptions (maybe not the right 
one) I guess, although I would also want the removal to happen in as many 
cases as possible. We do usually remove memory reads if the value read is 
unused.

> (And yes, I've always found our obsession with preserving infinite loops,
> outside of the above "obvious" cases, overly anal as well)

-- 
Marc Glisse

  reply	other threads:[~2019-05-21  8:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-17  4:17 Feng Xue OS
2019-05-17 16:47 ` Jeff Law
2019-05-17 18:50   ` Richard Biener
2019-05-18 14:00     ` Marc Glisse
2019-05-20  7:50       ` Richard Biener
2019-05-20  8:27         ` Feng Xue OS
2019-05-20  9:19           ` Richard Biener
2019-05-20  9:48             ` Feng Xue OS
2019-05-20 11:54               ` Richard Biener
2019-05-20 14:00                 ` Feng Xue OS
2019-05-20 14:04                   ` Richard Biener
2019-05-20 14:51                     ` Feng Xue OS
2019-05-21 10:12                       ` Richard Biener
2019-05-21 14:24                         ` Richard Biener
2019-05-22 13:44                           ` Michael Matz
2019-05-24 16:02                             ` [PATCH V3] " Feng Xue OS
2019-05-24  9:15                           ` [PATCH V2] " Feng Xue OS
2019-05-29 11:16                             ` Richard Biener
2019-06-04  6:49                               ` [PATCH V4] " Feng Xue OS
2019-06-04  8:24                                 ` Marc Glisse
2019-06-04 15:16                                   ` [PATCH V5] " Feng Xue OS
2019-06-04 15:24                                     ` [PATCH V6] " Feng Xue OS
2019-06-05 11:05                                       ` Richard Biener
2019-06-06 10:00                                         ` [PATCH V7] " Feng Xue OS
2019-06-11  2:40                                           ` [PATCH V8] " Feng Xue OS
2019-06-12  9:43                                             ` Richard Biener
2019-06-15 12:05                                               ` [committed][nvptx, libgomp] Update pr85381-{2,4}.c test-cases Tom de Vries
2019-05-20 13:04         ` [PATCH] Remove empty loop with assumed finiteness (PR tree-optimization/89713) Marc Glisse
2019-05-20 13:26           ` Richard Biener
2019-05-20 14:49             ` Michael Matz
2019-05-21  8:06               ` Marc Glisse [this message]
2020-04-01 13:36 ` [PATCH][RFC] c/94392 - only enable -ffinite-loops for C++ Richard Biener
2020-04-01 13:47   ` Jakub Jelinek
2020-04-01 13:52     ` Richard Biener
2020-04-01 15:56       ` Jan Hubicka
2020-04-01 16:59         ` Richard Biener
2020-04-01 19:15   ` Jason Merrill
2020-04-02  9:12     ` Richard Biener
2020-04-02  9:17       ` Jakub Jelinek
2020-04-02  9:41         ` Richard Biener
2020-04-03  8:29       ` Revert "[nvptx, libgomp] Update pr85381-{2, 4}.c test-cases" [PR89713, PR94392] (was: [PATCH][RFC] c/94392 - only enable -ffinite-loops for C++) Thomas Schwinge
2020-04-03  9:36         ` Revert "[nvptx, libgomp] Update pr85381-{2,4}.c " Richard Biener
2020-04-03 10:34           ` Jakub Jelinek
2020-10-30 14:09           ` Revert "[nvptx, libgomp] Update pr85381-{2, 4}.c " Thomas Schwinge
2020-10-30 14:16             ` Revert "[nvptx, libgomp] Update pr85381-{2,4}.c " Jakub Jelinek

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