From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 101558 invoked by alias); 5 Dec 2019 16:17:26 -0000 Mailing-List: contact gcc-patches-help@gcc.gnu.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: Sender: gcc-patches-owner@gcc.gnu.org Received: (qmail 101532 invoked by uid 89); 5 Dec 2019 16:17:26 -0000 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; auth=none X-Spam-SWARE-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=AWL,BAYES_00,SPF_PASS autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 spammy=card X-HELO: esa4.mentor.iphmx.com Received: from esa4.mentor.iphmx.com (HELO esa4.mentor.iphmx.com) (68.232.137.252) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.93/v0.84-503-g423c35a) with ESMTP; Thu, 05 Dec 2019 16:17:25 +0000 IronPort-SDR: k91+TyD6oIQZyG22mrsjj/M/PdL3ZiipgzOLH5lxwE4ZbGRzSMncIv0Fp4/8BWymloYHnA1ggo x3nmOkjOjadZpPy1/phH0pmR5zizGI5hO+fJ1hJTxgb+CRV+088C+rzJQAyb8TNxevpDJnZTd7 cq7lOF0nIano8zKSPtMajKPGy+BxSbDeAauHA61TEKrennjOFRyjg+w8CbGnSqle1u37QVk/C8 e49gz2X+tZkhubOnYv2IjqYzz1Cd8XvKGXtvELxwTej2tO4xqkKid+gHrJd84w7ys1yAvtZNaE 5sA= Received: from orw-gwy-01-in.mentorg.com ([192.94.38.165]) by esa4.mentor.iphmx.com with ESMTP; 05 Dec 2019 08:17:23 -0800 IronPort-SDR: yFyLQFl4XS19UpQnD23LvCDK8Nyj0JNc3GADuKlSa+3AoRFnXIyFIjJKyECM1iubWU4tAY4YN6 PY2OdfUbjzfKiP2aUuvdn2jS/b1JfnYOj6OtGPW7y9lSC0ABIgSVCaF8jkXJpGqeCVdQaf/JIT 87Zew/YvXRSgEgdVuWOMCIBF95O+DA16gXl+8X05HG2/As0+Dq0PNE2UZx59Oq7K90x3zth+ig GUCTCXKiIIOpcnYpVFHhZKTlfFaOGUHhdwz9GBwkH99I5TDyuFSh8aEQyRWDQnxKPkJ+4uDb3e Vd4= Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2019 16:17:00 -0000 From: Joseph Myers To: Thomas Schwinge CC: , , , Jakub Jelinek , Tobias Burnus , Michael Meissner Subject: Re: [RFC] Characters per line: from punch card (80) to line printer (132) (was: [Patch][OpenMP/OpenACC/Fortran] Fix mapping of optional (present|absent) arguments) In-Reply-To: <87lfrq6ahm.fsf@euler.schwinge.homeip.net> Message-ID: References: <8be82276-81b1-817c-fcd2-51f24f5fe2d2@codesourcery.com> <20191205151515.GS10088@tucnak> <87lfrq6ahm.fsf@euler.schwinge.homeip.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (DEB 202 2017-01-01) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Return-Path: joseph@codesourcery.com X-SW-Source: 2019-12/txt/msg00339.txt.bz2 On Thu, 5 Dec 2019, Thomas Schwinge wrote: > In the relevant session at the GNU Tools Cauldron 2019, Michael Meissner > stated that even he is not using a 80 x 24 terminal anymore, and that > should tell us something. ;-) > > So, I formally propose that we lift this characters per line restriction > from IBM punch card (80) to mainframe line printer (132). I thought these line lengths were based on readability studies suggesting lengths that lines shorter than 80 columns were more readable? Longer lines mean less space for multiple terminal / editor windows side-by-side to look at different pieces of code. I don't think that's an improvement. -- Joseph S. Myers joseph@codesourcery.com