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From: Alexander Monakov <amonakov@ispras.ru>
To: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Richard Biener <richard.guenther@gmail.com>, gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/2] Introduce gcc_qsort
Date: Fri, 11 May 2018 12:16:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LNX.2.20.13.1805111457000.1437@monopod.intra.ispras.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180511111732.GD17342@gate.crashing.org>

On Fri, 11 May 2018, Segher Boessenkool wrote:
> > In general such address-based comparisons steps are invalid; they lack
> > anti-reflexivity. So comparators are not actually allowed to do that.
> 
> I don't know what you mean here?  Every comparator is required to be
> *reflexive*!  Subtracting two pointers to elements of the same array gives
> a perfectly fine total order as far as I see (it is the same as the
> difference between the array indices of those elements).

I meant "anti-commutativity"; sorry about the mixup. Such strategy does not
give a valid total order because the order changes while in-progress sorting
reorders elements:

suppose you have elements A and B such that A precedes B and compare A < B
via address test. At some point, the sort routine may swap A with some
unrelated element C, moving A past B. Now B < A. This is a contradiction.

> In any case, every qsort call that is converted to one with this weaker
> contract will need to be checked.  Or we can wait for bug reports ;-)

I think such comparators have a good chance of failing existing qsort_chk
validation.

Alexander

  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-11 12:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-10 15:57 Alexander Monakov
2018-05-10 15:57 ` [PATCH 2/2] gcc_qsort: build system changes Alexander Monakov
2018-05-11  9:32   ` Richard Biener
2018-05-10 17:01 ` [PATCH 1/2] gcc_qsort: source code changes Alexander Monakov
2018-05-10 17:01   ` David Malcolm
2018-05-10 17:44   ` Richard Biener
2018-05-10 18:08     ` Alexander Monakov
2018-05-10 18:57       ` DJ Delorie
2018-05-11 12:03   ` Richard Biener
2018-05-11 13:12     ` Alexander Monakov
2018-05-13 23:56   ` H.J. Lu
2018-05-14  8:44     ` Alexander Monakov
2018-05-14  9:08       ` Richard Biener
2018-05-10 17:35 ` [PATCH 0/2] Introduce gcc_qsort Jakub Jelinek
2018-05-10 17:48   ` Alexander Monakov
2018-05-10 17:43 ` Richard Biener
2018-05-10 17:57   ` Alexander Monakov
2018-05-11 10:35   ` Segher Boessenkool
2018-05-11 10:44     ` Alexander Monakov
2018-05-11 12:00       ` Segher Boessenkool
2018-05-11 12:16         ` Alexander Monakov [this message]
2018-05-11 12:52           ` Segher Boessenkool
2018-05-11 16:54           ` Eric Botcazou
2018-05-11 11:17     ` Jakub Jelinek

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