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From: Michael Matz <matz@suse.de>
To: Richard Henderson <rth@redhat.com>
Cc: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>, "H.J. Lu" <hjl.tools@gmail.com>,
	    Jan Hubicka <hubicka@ucw.cz>,
	Alexander Monakov <amonakov@ispras.ru>,
	    GCC Patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>,
	Uros Bizjak <ubizjak@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH i386] Allow sibcalls in no-PLT PIC
Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 12:13:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LSU.2.20.1505201400400.27315@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <555B87F4.30908@redhat.com>

Hi,

On Tue, 19 May 2015, Richard Henderson wrote:

> It is.  The relaxation that HJ is working on requires that the reads 
> from the got not be hoisted.  I'm not especially convinced that what 
> he's working on is a win.
> 
> With LTO, the compiler can do the same job that he's attempting in the 
> linker, without an extra nop.  Without LTO, leaving it to the linker 
> means that you can't hoist the load and hide the memory latency.

Well, hoisting always needs a register, and if hoisted out of a loop 
(which you all seem to be after) that register is live through the whole 
loop body.  You need a register for each different called function in such 
loop, trading the one GOT pointer with N other registers.  For 
register-starved machines this is a real problem, even x86-64 doesn't have 
that many.  I.e. I'm not convinced that this hoisting will really be much 
of a win that often, outside toy examples.  Sure, the compiler can hoist 
function addresses trivially, but I think it will lead to spilling more 
often than not, or alternatively the hoisting will be undone by the 
register allocators rematerialization.  Of course, this would have to be 
measured for real not hand-waved, but, well, I'd be surprised if it's not 
so.


Ciao,
Michael.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-05-20 12:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-04 16:38 PIC calls without PLT, generic implementation Alexander Monakov
2015-05-04 16:38 ` [RFC PATCH] ira: accept loads via argp rtx in validate_equiv_mem Alexander Monakov
2015-05-04 17:37   ` Jeff Law
2015-05-04 16:38 ` [PATCH i386] PR65753: allow PIC tail calls via function pointers Alexander Monakov
2015-05-10 16:37   ` Jan Hubicka
2015-05-11 16:11     ` Alexander Monakov
2015-05-04 16:38 ` [PATCH i386] Move CLOBBERED_REGS earlier in register class list Alexander Monakov
2015-05-10 16:44   ` Jan Hubicka
2015-05-10 17:51     ` Uros Bizjak
2015-05-10 18:09       ` Uros Bizjak
2015-05-11 16:26         ` Alexander Monakov
2015-05-11 16:30           ` Uros Bizjak
2015-05-04 16:38 ` [PATCH i386] Extend sibcall peepholes to allow source in %eax Alexander Monakov
2015-05-10 16:54   ` Jan Hubicka
2015-05-11 17:50     ` Alexander Monakov
2015-05-11 18:00       ` Jan Hubicka
2015-05-11 19:46         ` Uros Bizjak
2015-05-11 19:48           ` Jeff Law
2015-05-11 20:16             ` Jan Hubicka
2015-05-13 19:05               ` Alexander Monakov
2015-05-13 20:04                 ` Jan Hubicka
2015-05-14 17:36                   ` Alexander Monakov
2015-05-04 16:38 ` [PATCH] Expand PIC calls without PLT with -fno-plt Alexander Monakov
2015-05-04 17:34   ` Jeff Law
2015-05-04 17:40     ` Jakub Jelinek
2015-05-04 17:42       ` Jeff Law
2015-05-06  3:08         ` Rich Felker
2015-05-10 17:07           ` Jan Hubicka
2015-05-06 15:25         ` Alexander Monakov
2015-05-06 15:46           ` Jakub Jelinek
2015-05-06 15:55             ` Jeff Law
2015-05-06 16:44             ` Alexander Monakov
2015-05-06 17:35               ` Rich Felker
2015-05-06 18:26                 ` H.J. Lu
2015-05-06 18:37                   ` Rich Felker
2015-05-06 18:45                     ` H.J. Lu
2015-05-06 19:01                       ` Rich Felker
2015-05-06 19:05                         ` H.J. Lu
2015-05-06 19:18                           ` Rich Felker
2015-05-06 19:24                             ` H.J. Lu
2015-05-11 11:48                             ` Michael Matz
2015-05-11 14:20                               ` Rich Felker
2015-05-07 18:22           ` Jeff Law
2015-05-07 19:13             ` H.J. Lu
2015-05-10 16:59   ` Jan Hubicka
2015-05-11 20:36     ` Jeff Law
2015-05-11 20:55       ` H.J. Lu
2015-05-11 22:13         ` Jan Hubicka
2015-06-22 15:52   ` Jiong Wang
2015-06-22 18:18     ` Alexander Monakov
2015-06-23  8:41       ` Ramana Radhakrishnan
2015-06-23 10:43         ` Alexander Monakov
2015-06-23 13:28         ` Jeff Law
2015-07-16 10:37           ` [AArch64] Tighten direct call pattern to repair -fno-plt Jiong Wang
2015-07-16 10:47             ` Alexander Monakov
2015-07-16 10:48               ` Jiong Wang
2015-07-21 12:52                 ` [AArch64][sibcall]Tighten " Jiong Wang
2015-08-04  9:50                   ` James Greenhalgh
2015-08-06 16:18                     ` [COMMITTED][AArch64][sibcall]Tighten " Jiong Wang
2015-08-07  8:22                       ` James Greenhalgh
2015-08-07 13:28                         ` Jiong Wang
2015-08-04  9:50             ` [AArch64] Tighten " James Greenhalgh
2015-08-06 16:16               ` [COMMITTED][AArch64] " Jiong Wang
2015-05-04 16:38 ` [PATCH i386] Allow sibcalls in no-PLT PIC Alexander Monakov
2015-05-15 16:37   ` Alexander Monakov
2015-05-15 16:48     ` H.J. Lu
2015-05-15 20:08       ` Jan Hubicka
2015-05-15 20:23         ` H.J. Lu
2015-05-15 20:35           ` Rich Felker
2015-05-15 20:37             ` H.J. Lu
2015-05-15 20:45               ` Rich Felker
2015-05-15 22:16                 ` H.J. Lu
2015-05-15 23:14                   ` Jan Hubicka
2015-05-15 23:30                     ` H.J. Lu
2015-05-15 23:35                       ` H.J. Lu
2015-05-15 23:44                         ` H.J. Lu
2015-05-16  0:18                           ` Rich Felker
2015-05-16 14:33                             ` H.J. Lu
2015-05-16 19:03                               ` H.J. Lu
2015-05-16 19:32                                 ` Rich Felker
2015-05-16 23:23                                   ` H.J. Lu
2015-05-15 23:49                       ` Rich Felker
2015-05-19 14:48                         ` Michael Matz
2015-05-19 15:11                           ` Jeff Law
2015-05-19 16:03                             ` Michael Matz
2015-05-19 19:11                               ` Rich Felker
2015-05-19 18:08                           ` Rich Felker
2015-05-19 19:03                             ` Richard Henderson
2015-05-19 19:10                               ` H.J. Lu
2015-05-19 19:17                                 ` Richard Henderson
2015-05-19 19:20                                   ` H.J. Lu
2015-05-19 19:54                                     ` Richard Henderson
2015-05-19 20:27                                     ` Rich Felker
2015-05-19 20:44                                       ` H.J. Lu
2015-05-19 21:28                                         ` Rich Felker
2015-05-20  0:52                                           ` H.J. Lu
2015-05-20  1:09                                             ` Rich Felker
2015-05-22 19:32                                               ` Richard Henderson
2015-05-19 19:48                               ` Rich Felker
2015-05-19 20:16                                 ` Richard Henderson
2015-05-20 12:13                               ` Michael Matz [this message]
2015-05-20 12:40                                 ` H.J. Lu
2015-05-20 14:17                                 ` Rich Felker
2015-05-20 14:33                                   ` Michael Matz
2015-05-18 18:25         ` Alexander Monakov
2015-05-18 19:03           ` Jan Hubicka

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