From: Richard Biener <rguenther@suse.de>
To: gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org
Cc: "Jakub Jelinek" <jakub@redhat.com>, "Martin Liška" <mliska@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] Fix pointer diff (was: -fsanitize=pointer-overflow support (PR sanitizer/80998))
Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2017 09:46:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LSU.2.20.1706221142080.23185@zhemvz.fhfr.qr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1706221105340.2158@stedding.saclay.inria.fr>
On Thu, 22 Jun 2017, Marc Glisse wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Jun 2017, Richard Biener wrote:
>
> > > If we consider pointers as unsigned, with a subtraction that has a signed
> > > result with the constraint that overflow is undefined, we cannot model
> > > that
> > > optimally with just the usual signed/unsigned operations, so I am in favor
> > > of
> > > POINTER_DIFF, at least in the long run (together with having a signed
> > > second
> > > argument for POINTER_PLUS, etc). For 64-bit platforms it might have been
> > > easier to declare that the upper half (3/4 ?) of the address space doesn't
> > > exist...
> >
> > I repeatedly thought of POINTER_DIFF_EXPR but adding such a basic tree
> > code is quite a big job.
>
> Yes :-(
> It is probably not realistic to introduce it just to avoid a couple
> regressions while fixing a bug.
>
> > So we'd have POINTER_DIFF_EXPR take two pointer typed args and produce
> > ptrdiff_t. What's the advantage of having this?
>
> It represents q-p with one statement instead of 3 (long)q-(long)p or 4
> (long)((ulong)q-(ulong)p). It allows us to stay in the pointer world, so
> (q-p)>0 is equivalent to p<q, not just (long)p<(long)q. It properly models
> what (undefined) overflow means for pointers.
>
> Of course it is hard to know in advance if that's significant or
> negligible, maybe size_t finds its way in too many places anyway.
As with all those experiments ...
Well, if I would sell this as a consultant to somebody I'd estimate
3 man months for this work which realistically means you have to
start now otherwise you won't make it this stage 1.
A smaller job would be to make POINTER_PLUS_EXPR take ptrdiff_t
as offset operand. But the fallout is likely similar. A lame(?)
half-way transition would allow for both unsigned and signed
ptrdiff_t (note sizetype -> [u]ptrdiff_t is already a transition
for some embedded archs eventually). Maybe allowing both signed
and unsigned offsets is desirable (you of course get interesting
effects when combining those in GIMPLE where signedness matters).
Richard.
> > And yes, I agree that POINTER_PLUS_EXPR should take
> > ptrdiff_t rather than sizetype offset -- changing one without the
> > other will lead to awkwardness in required patterns involving
> > both like (p - q) + q.
> >
> > As said, it's a big job with likely all sorts of (testsuite) fallout.
> >
> > > > The third one is
> > > > if (&a[b] - &a[c] != b - c)
> > > > link_error();
> > > > where fold already during generic folding used to be able to cope with
> > > > it,
> > > > but now we have:
> > > > (long int) (((long unsigned int) b - (long unsigned int) c) * 4) /[ex] 4
> > > > !=
> > > > b - c
> > > > which we don't fold.
> > >
> > > Once we have this last expression, we have lost, we need to know that the
> > > multiplication cannot overflow for this. When the size multiplications are
> > > done in a signed type in the future (?), it might help.
> >
> > Not sure where the unsigned multiply comes from -- I guess we fold
> > it inside the cast ...
>
> We usually do those multiplications in an unsigned type. I experimented
> with changing one such place in
> https://gcc.gnu.org/ml/gcc-patches/2017-05/msg01641.html , there is
> probably at least another one in the middle-end.
>
>
--
Richard Biener <rguenther@suse.de>
SUSE LINUX GmbH, GF: Felix Imendoerffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton, HRB 21284 (AG Nuernberg)
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Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2017-06-19 18:25 [RFC PATCH] -fsanitize=pointer-overflow support (PR sanitizer/80998) Jakub Jelinek
2017-06-20 7:41 ` Richard Biener
2017-06-20 8:14 ` Jakub Jelinek
2017-06-20 8:18 ` Richard Biener
2017-06-21 7:58 ` Jakub Jelinek
2017-06-21 8:04 ` Richard Biener
2017-06-21 14:40 ` [RFC PATCH] Fix pointer diff (was: -fsanitize=pointer-overflow support (PR sanitizer/80998)) Jakub Jelinek
2017-06-21 15:17 ` Jakub Jelinek
2017-06-21 16:27 ` Marc Glisse
2017-06-22 8:31 ` Richard Biener
2017-06-22 9:29 ` Marc Glisse
2017-06-22 9:46 ` Richard Biener [this message]
2017-07-01 16:41 ` Marc Glisse
2017-07-03 12:37 ` Richard Biener
2017-10-09 11:01 ` Marc Glisse
2017-10-19 15:11 ` Richard Biener
2017-10-28 13:04 ` Marc Glisse
2017-10-28 17:13 ` Richard Biener
2017-07-04 8:53 ` [RFC PATCH] -fsanitize=pointer-overflow support (PR sanitizer/80998) Jakub Jelinek
2017-06-21 8:00 ` Jakub Jelinek
2017-06-21 8:05 ` Richard Biener
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