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From: Richard Biener <rguenther@suse.de>
To: "Martin Liška" <mliska@suse.cz>
Cc: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>,
	gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org,
	    Richard Sandiford <richard.sandiford@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFH] split {generic,gimple}-match.c files
Date: Mon, 06 May 2019 13:36:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LSU.2.20.1905061532580.10704@zhemvz.fhfr.qr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b2b6fecf-2a5b-6850-fd49-6685d0270937@suse.cz>

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On Mon, 6 May 2019, Martin Liška wrote:

> On 5/2/19 9:04 PM, Richard Biener wrote:
> > On May 2, 2019 8:14:46 PM GMT+02:00, Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org> wrote:
> >> On Thu, May 02, 2019 at 07:41:18PM +0200, Richard Biener wrote:
> >>> On May 2, 2019 7:00:16 PM GMT+02:00, Segher Boessenkool
> >> <segher@kernel.crashing.org> wrote:
> >>>> On Thu, May 02, 2019 at 03:18:00PM +0200, Richard Biener wrote:
> >>>>> Somewhen earlier this year I've done the experiment with using
> >>>>> a compile with -flto -fno-fat-lto-objects and a link
> >>>>> via -flto -r -flinker-output=rel into the object file.  This cut
> >>>>> compile-time more than in half with less maintainance overhead.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Adding other files to this handling looks trivial as well, as well
> >>>>> as conditionalizing it (I'd probably not want this for devel
> >> builds).
> >>>>
> >>>> But we want devel builds to be a lot faster than they are now :-/
> >>>
> >>> My devel build is -O0 non-bootstrapped and building the files after
> >> dependency changes is fast enough. It's the bootstraps that matter, no?
> >>
> >>
> >> Yes, I bootstrap most of the time.  For development.  It catches a
> >> *lot*
> >> of problems progressive builds do not.  (Those are plenty fast already
> >> of
> >> course, -O0 or not).
> > 
> > So we'd catch it there but disable by default for stage 1 since we probably do not want to rely on the host compiler. 
> > 
> > Richard. 
> > 
> >>
> >> Segher
> > 
> 
> I'm interested in 2 scenarios:
> 
> 1) fast non-bootstrap development build with -O2; typically I want to run a fraction of test-suite or
> I want to install the compiler and run-time binaries; building the compiler with -O0 will result in terribly
> slow build of run-time libraries

That's already overall "fast", mostly dominated by runtime library build.

> 2) faster bootstrap on a massively parallel machine (64+ cores)

I guess for this we can also try to do LTO bootstap and
LTO-link libbackend itself.  LTO bootstrap is only slow because
we build everything 12 times.

I'm most interested in faster bootstrap on low-core machines
(4 to 6 physical cores), since that's what I am doing most of the time.
This is dominated by testing time, not bootstrap time.

Richard.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-05-06 13:36 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-25 11:44 Richard Biener
2018-04-25 12:26 ` Richard Biener
2018-04-25 12:46   ` Richard Biener
2018-04-25 13:16 ` Martin Liška
2018-09-03 12:27 ` Martin Liška
2018-09-03 12:41   ` Richard Biener
2018-09-03 12:54     ` Martin Liška
2018-09-03 13:50       ` Martin Liška
2018-09-03 14:01         ` Richard Biener
2018-09-03 14:27           ` Martin Liška
2018-09-03 14:43             ` Richard Biener
2018-09-04 15:07               ` Martin Liška
2018-09-10 11:43                 ` Martin Liška
2019-04-29 15:21                   ` Martin Liška
2019-05-02 13:18                     ` Richard Biener
2019-05-02 17:00                       ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-05-02 17:41                         ` Richard Biener
2019-05-02 18:14                           ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-05-02 19:04                             ` Richard Biener
2019-05-06 12:59                               ` Martin Liška
2019-05-06 13:36                                 ` Richard Biener [this message]
2019-05-06 13:51                                   ` Martin Liška
2019-05-06 15:10                                   ` Segher Boessenkool
2019-05-06 12:56                       ` Martin Liška
2019-05-06 13:32                         ` Richard Biener
2019-05-06 13:50                           ` Martin Liška
2019-04-29 14:41                 ` Martin Liška

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