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From: Michael Matz <matz@suse.de>
To: Richard Biener <richard.guenther@gmail.com>
Cc: GCC Patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>, Jeff Law <law@redhat.com>,
	    Feng Xue OS <fxue@os.amperecomputing.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Remove empty loop with assumed finiteness (PR tree-optimization/89713)
Date: Mon, 20 May 2019 14:49:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <alpine.LSU.2.21.1905201442460.8064@wotan.suse.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFiYyc1Jf3uGo8kSOe8LLPt5_FJm+49XtC7Ho5L1=HZ_+e-iuQ@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

On Mon, 20 May 2019, Richard Biener wrote:

> > The C++ standard says that do{}while(1) is __builtin_unreachable(), we 
> > don't have to preserve it. There is no mention of anything like a 
> > "nontrivial exit condition". Other languages may have a different 
> > opinion though, so it would probably need a flag indeed... But I am 
> > curious what the point of such a loop is.
> 
> busy wait until wakeup by signal or interrupt.

I'd actually turn it around from what C++ says.  If the user wrote, as 
is, "do{}while(1);" or "while(1);" or "for(;;);" then we can assume 
something funky going on and not remove the loop.  For any other loop we 
assume that they are finite.  I.e. we mark loops as to-be-preserved (which 
we set on a few known patterns), and just remove all other loops when they 
contain no observable side effects after optimization.

And of course we'd still have to determine what acceptable side effects 
are.  E.g. in a pointer chasing loop containing no body, is the 
segfault when the pointer chain is not in fact circular, a side effect we 
should retain, or should we be allowed to remove the loop?  I'd say we 
should remove the loop, of course.

(And yes, I've always found our obsession with preserving infinite loops, 
outside of the above "obvious" cases, overly anal as well)


Ciao,
Michael.

  reply	other threads:[~2019-05-20 14:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-05-17  4:17 Feng Xue OS
2019-05-17 16:47 ` Jeff Law
2019-05-17 18:50   ` Richard Biener
2019-05-18 14:00     ` Marc Glisse
2019-05-20  7:50       ` Richard Biener
2019-05-20  8:27         ` Feng Xue OS
2019-05-20  9:19           ` Richard Biener
2019-05-20  9:48             ` Feng Xue OS
2019-05-20 11:54               ` Richard Biener
2019-05-20 14:00                 ` Feng Xue OS
2019-05-20 14:04                   ` Richard Biener
2019-05-20 14:51                     ` Feng Xue OS
2019-05-21 10:12                       ` Richard Biener
2019-05-21 14:24                         ` Richard Biener
2019-05-22 13:44                           ` Michael Matz
2019-05-24 16:02                             ` [PATCH V3] " Feng Xue OS
2019-05-24  9:15                           ` [PATCH V2] " Feng Xue OS
2019-05-29 11:16                             ` Richard Biener
2019-06-04  6:49                               ` [PATCH V4] " Feng Xue OS
2019-06-04  8:24                                 ` Marc Glisse
2019-06-04 15:16                                   ` [PATCH V5] " Feng Xue OS
2019-06-04 15:24                                     ` [PATCH V6] " Feng Xue OS
2019-06-05 11:05                                       ` Richard Biener
2019-06-06 10:00                                         ` [PATCH V7] " Feng Xue OS
2019-06-11  2:40                                           ` [PATCH V8] " Feng Xue OS
2019-06-12  9:43                                             ` Richard Biener
2019-06-15 12:05                                               ` [committed][nvptx, libgomp] Update pr85381-{2,4}.c test-cases Tom de Vries
2019-05-20 13:04         ` [PATCH] Remove empty loop with assumed finiteness (PR tree-optimization/89713) Marc Glisse
2019-05-20 13:26           ` Richard Biener
2019-05-20 14:49             ` Michael Matz [this message]
2019-05-21  8:06               ` Marc Glisse
2020-04-01 13:36 ` [PATCH][RFC] c/94392 - only enable -ffinite-loops for C++ Richard Biener
2020-04-01 13:47   ` Jakub Jelinek
2020-04-01 13:52     ` Richard Biener
2020-04-01 15:56       ` Jan Hubicka
2020-04-01 16:59         ` Richard Biener
2020-04-01 19:15   ` Jason Merrill
2020-04-02  9:12     ` Richard Biener
2020-04-02  9:17       ` Jakub Jelinek
2020-04-02  9:41         ` Richard Biener
2020-04-03  8:29       ` Revert "[nvptx, libgomp] Update pr85381-{2, 4}.c test-cases" [PR89713, PR94392] (was: [PATCH][RFC] c/94392 - only enable -ffinite-loops for C++) Thomas Schwinge
2020-04-03  9:36         ` Revert "[nvptx, libgomp] Update pr85381-{2,4}.c " Richard Biener
2020-04-03 10:34           ` Jakub Jelinek
2020-10-30 14:09           ` Revert "[nvptx, libgomp] Update pr85381-{2, 4}.c " Thomas Schwinge
2020-10-30 14:16             ` Revert "[nvptx, libgomp] Update pr85381-{2,4}.c " Jakub Jelinek

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