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* [wwwdocs,fortran] Update link to CHKSYS
@ 2017-04-11 22:40 Gerald Pfeifer
  2017-04-12 17:21 ` Jerry DeLisle
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Gerald Pfeifer @ 2017-04-11 22:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: gcc-patches, fortran

This one has been failing for quite a while, and I found
  http://flibs.sourceforge.net/chksys.html
as a potential replacement link.

Thoughts?

Gerald

Index: readings.html
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvs/gcc/wwwdocs/htdocs/readings.html,v
retrieving revision 1.276
diff -u -r1.276 readings.html
--- readings.html	11 Apr 2017 22:30:59 -0000	1.276
+++ readings.html	11 Apr 2017 22:39:10 -0000
@@ -436,7 +436,7 @@
         possible to stress the compiler error handling.
       </li>
       <li>
-        <a href="http://ftp.cac.psu.edu/pub/ger/fortran/chksys.htm"><cite>Checking
+        <a href="http://flibs.sourceforge.net/chksys.html"><cite>Checking
         properties of the compiler and the run-time environment</cite></a> by
         Arjen Markus (source provided).
       </li>

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread

* Re: [wwwdocs,fortran] Update link to CHKSYS
  2017-04-11 22:40 [wwwdocs,fortran] Update link to CHKSYS Gerald Pfeifer
@ 2017-04-12 17:21 ` Jerry DeLisle
  2017-04-13  9:13   ` Arjen Markus
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Jerry DeLisle @ 2017-04-12 17:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Gerald Pfeifer, gcc-patches, fortran

On 04/11/2017 03:40 PM, Gerald Pfeifer wrote:
> This one has been failing for quite a while, and I found
>   http://flibs.sourceforge.net/chksys.html
> as a potential replacement link.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 

When I visit the suggested link I have to go up one level manually to get to a
page that has a link to the actual source code. Norton Safe Web which is in my
router declares the link to the source code there at sf.net to be unsafe since
it has found one computer virus residing out there somewhere..

I don't know how real that concern is. Regardless, it may be better to point to
one level up to get to everything and one can scroll down the page to find the
link to CHECKSYS.

Just my thoughts.

Jerry

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread

* Re: [wwwdocs,fortran] Update link to CHKSYS
  2017-04-12 17:21 ` Jerry DeLisle
@ 2017-04-13  9:13   ` Arjen Markus
  2017-04-13 19:36     ` Jerry DeLisle
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Arjen Markus @ 2017-04-13  9:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jerry DeLisle; +Cc: Gerald Pfeifer, gcc-patches, Fortran List

Hi Gerald, Jerry,

as the author of this program (and the maintainer of that site) I am
honoured that you refer to this. But I would like to tell you a bit
about the history:
I started CHKSYS in the time that FORTRAN 77 was still the main
standard, so much of the tests that are contained in this program are
specific to all the variations I had encountered with various FORTRAN
compilers. I did start a version for Fortran 90, but I was rather a
novice wrt that standard back then and I never really achieved a
satisfactory set of tests.

Some time last year I started anew with a set of programs - see the
chkfeatures subdirectory in the source repository. These programs
check whether a compiler supports features found in Fortran 2003 and
2008 and various common extensions that I am aware of. Since the
checks frequently cause the compilers to complain - and are even
designed for this - I have set this up as a collection of programs,
rather than a single one.

Checking the web pages, I see I should really update the original page
and integrate the new stuff with it. If you have any suggestions to
make the reference easier (access to the source code from that page?),
then let me know. I am no hero when it comes to web design, but a
better set-up of links and such is well within my capacity.

Regards,

Arjen

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread

* Re: [wwwdocs,fortran] Update link to CHKSYS
  2017-04-13  9:13   ` Arjen Markus
@ 2017-04-13 19:36     ` Jerry DeLisle
  2017-04-14  7:25       ` Arjen Markus
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Jerry DeLisle @ 2017-04-13 19:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Arjen Markus; +Cc: Gerald Pfeifer, gcc-patches, Fortran List

On 04/13/2017 02:13 AM, Arjen Markus wrote:
> Hi Gerald, Jerry,
> 
> as the author of this program (and the maintainer of that site) I am
> honoured that you refer to this. But I would like to tell you a bit
> about the history:
> I started CHKSYS in the time that FORTRAN 77 was still the main
> standard, so much of the tests that are contained in this program are
> specific to all the variations I had encountered with various FORTRAN
> compilers. I did start a version for Fortran 90, but I was rather a
> novice wrt that standard back then and I never really achieved a
> satisfactory set of tests.
> 
> Some time last year I started anew with a set of programs - see the
> chkfeatures subdirectory in the source repository. These programs
> check whether a compiler supports features found in Fortran 2003 and
> 2008 and various common extensions that I am aware of. Since the
> checks frequently cause the compilers to complain - and are even
> designed for this - I have set this up as a collection of programs,
> rather than a single one.
> 
> Checking the web pages, I see I should really update the original page
> and integrate the new stuff with it. If you have any suggestions to
> make the reference easier (access to the source code from that page?),
> then let me know. I am no hero when it comes to web design, but a
> better set-up of links and such is well within my capacity.
> 

First, the original page link we had is broken. so clarify for us the URL you
intend to update.

A download link on each page is helpful. Our link was to CHKSYS so I had to
manually navigate up one level to hunt around for the actual source code. We
probably should link to your main page so one navigates down to what one is
looking for.  I think the download page link has one word like 'here' or
something.  Maybe pull that out to a separate line that says "Download Sources"
in bold or something. Just a suggestion, by all means do as you please.

Jerry

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread

* Re: [wwwdocs,fortran] Update link to CHKSYS
  2017-04-13 19:36     ` Jerry DeLisle
@ 2017-04-14  7:25       ` Arjen Markus
  2017-04-15  8:07         ` Gerald Pfeifer
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Arjen Markus @ 2017-04-14  7:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jerry DeLisle; +Cc: Gerald Pfeifer, gcc-patches, Fortran List

Hi Jerry,

thanks for the suggestions - I agree that a download link which is
more visible would be a good idea. I will adapt the pages with this in
mind.

Regards,

Arjen

2017-04-13 21:36 GMT+02:00 Jerry DeLisle <jvdelisle@charter.net>:
> On 04/13/2017 02:13 AM, Arjen Markus wrote:
>> Hi Gerald, Jerry,
>>
>> as the author of this program (and the maintainer of that site) I am
>> honoured that you refer to this. But I would like to tell you a bit
>> about the history:
>> I started CHKSYS in the time that FORTRAN 77 was still the main
>> standard, so much of the tests that are contained in this program are
>> specific to all the variations I had encountered with various FORTRAN
>> compilers. I did start a version for Fortran 90, but I was rather a
>> novice wrt that standard back then and I never really achieved a
>> satisfactory set of tests.
>>
>> Some time last year I started anew with a set of programs - see the
>> chkfeatures subdirectory in the source repository. These programs
>> check whether a compiler supports features found in Fortran 2003 and
>> 2008 and various common extensions that I am aware of. Since the
>> checks frequently cause the compilers to complain - and are even
>> designed for this - I have set this up as a collection of programs,
>> rather than a single one.
>>
>> Checking the web pages, I see I should really update the original page
>> and integrate the new stuff with it. If you have any suggestions to
>> make the reference easier (access to the source code from that page?),
>> then let me know. I am no hero when it comes to web design, but a
>> better set-up of links and such is well within my capacity.
>>
>
> First, the original page link we had is broken. so clarify for us the URL you
> intend to update.
>
> A download link on each page is helpful. Our link was to CHKSYS so I had to
> manually navigate up one level to hunt around for the actual source code. We
> probably should link to your main page so one navigates down to what one is
> looking for.  I think the download page link has one word like 'here' or
> something.  Maybe pull that out to a separate line that says "Download Sources"
> in bold or something. Just a suggestion, by all means do as you please.
>
> Jerry

^ permalink raw reply	[flat|nested] 6+ messages in thread

* Re: [wwwdocs,fortran] Update link to CHKSYS
  2017-04-14  7:25       ` Arjen Markus
@ 2017-04-15  8:07         ` Gerald Pfeifer
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Gerald Pfeifer @ 2017-04-15  8:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Arjen Markus; +Cc: Jerry DeLisle, gcc-patches, Fortran List

On Fri, 14 Apr 2017, Arjen Markus wrote:
> thanks for the suggestions - I agree that a download link which is
> more visible would be a good idea. I will adapt the pages with this 
> in mind.

Cool, thanks.

For the time being, I'm going ahead with the change below (taking
into consideration Jerry's recommendation to link one level higher)
since the link we currently show is broken.

I do believe it would be nice to have a specific link for your
"checking utilities" (as opposed to the wider, more general page),
and when/if you have one in place a short note would be great and
I'll happily update our page at https://gcc.gnu.org/readings.html
again.

Gerald

Index: readings.html
===================================================================
RCS file: /cvs/gcc/wwwdocs/htdocs/readings.html,v
retrieving revision 1.276
diff -u -r1.276 readings.html
--- readings.html	11 Apr 2017 22:30:59 -0000	1.276
+++ readings.html	15 Apr 2017 06:07:33 -0000
@@ -436,7 +436,7 @@
         possible to stress the compiler error handling.
       </li>
       <li>
-        <a href="http://ftp.cac.psu.edu/pub/ger/fortran/chksys.htm"><cite>Checking
+        <a href="http://flibs.sourceforge.net"><cite>Checking
         properties of the compiler and the run-time environment</cite></a> by
         Arjen Markus (source provided).
       </li>

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