From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from hamza.pair.com (hamza.pair.com [209.68.5.143]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D2E983858D28 for ; Tue, 17 Jan 2023 09:32:17 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.2 sourceware.org D2E983858D28 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=pfeifer.com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=pfeifer.com Received: from hamza.pair.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hamza.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EAD733EDB; Tue, 17 Jan 2023 04:32:17 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.80] (188-23-63-236.adsl.highway.telekom.at [188.23.63.236]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by hamza.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7B0E433EE2; Tue, 17 Jan 2023 04:32:16 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2023 10:31:58 +0100 (CET) From: Gerald Pfeifer To: Thomas Schwinge , "Jose E. Marchesi" cc: gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org Subject: Re: [PATCH,WWWDOCS] htdocs: add an Atom feed for GCC news In-Reply-To: <875ydcskal.fsf@oracle.com> Message-ID: References: <20221223095013.3630-1-jose.marchesi@oracle.com> <87tu0wyb4m.fsf@euler.schwinge.homeip.net> <875ydcskal.fsf@oracle.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Scanned-By: mailmunge 3.10 on 209.68.5.143 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,KAM_DMARC_STATUS,RCVD_IN_BARRACUDACENTRAL,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,TXREP autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on server2.sourceware.org List-Id: On Wed, 11 Jan 2023, Thomas Schwinge wrote: > On 2022-12-23T10:50:13+0100, "Jose E. Marchesi via Gcc-patches" wrote: >> This patch adds an Atom feed for GCC news, which can then be easily >> aggregated in other sites, such as the GNU planet >> (https://planet.gnu.org). > I absolutely agree that providing such an RSS feed is a good thing > (..., and that we generally should make better use of our News section, > and other "PR"...) -- but I'm less convinced by the prospect of manually > editing the RSS 'news.xml' file, duplicating in a (potentially) different > format what we've got in the HTML News section. :-| Agreed, yet... > Ideally, there'd be some simple files for News items (Markdown, or > similar), which are then converted into HTML News as well as RSS feed. > Obviously, there needs to be some consensus on what to use, and somebody > needs to set up the corresponding machinery... ...how are we going to get to that? On Thu, 12 Jan 2023, Jose E. Marchesi wrote: > I would like to point out that I have maintained these kind of feeds for > my own sites for years, and that in my humble personal experience unless > there are a lot of updates, like more than a couple of new entries per > month, any automated schema would be overkill, prone to rot, and not > really worth the effort. That is a bit of a concern. I'd love having a single source that feeds both the News section on our main page, rolls over into news.html, and also feeds the Atom feed (no pun intended). On the other hand, with less than a dozen entries per year, even if manually converting form one to the other takes 5 minutes, creating such a machinery wouldn't amortize anytime soon > I strongly suggest to not overengineer here [and nowhere else :)] I am tempted to agree (even if the engineer in me would prefer to avoid duplication). Jose, might you be willing to help others create Atom feed entries? What do others think? Gerald