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From: Luis Machado <luis.machado@linaro.org>
To: Kyrill Tkachov <kyrylo.tkachov@foss.arm.com>, gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org
Cc: james.greenhalgh@arm.com, Richard.Earnshaw@arm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH, v2] Recognize a missed usage of a sbfiz instruction
Date: Mon, 07 May 2018 14:28:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d3889cba-56a3-6709-579f-d5384d75050c@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <d756d9f7-416f-33fe-2dad-04e78ba90ed4@linaro.org>

Hi,

On 02/08/2018 10:45 AM, Luis Machado wrote:
> Hi Kyrill,
> 
> On 02/08/2018 09:48 AM, Kyrill Tkachov wrote:
>> Hi Luis,
>>
>> On 06/02/18 15:04, Luis Machado wrote:
>>> Thanks for the feedback Kyrill. I've adjusted the v2 patch based on your
>>> suggestions and re-tested the changes. Everything is still sane.
>>
>> Thanks! This looks pretty good to me.
>>
>>> Since this is ARM-specific and fairly specific, i wonder if it would be
>>> reasonable to consider it for inclusion at the current stage.
>>
>> It is true that the target maintainers can choose to take
>> such patches at any stage. However, any patch at this stage increases
>> the risk of regressions being introduced and these regressions
>> can come bite us in ways that are very hard to anticipate.
>>
>> Have a look at some of the bugs in bugzilla (or a quick scan of the 
>> gcc-bugs list)
>> for examples of the ways that things can go wrong with any of the 
>> myriad of GCC components
>> and the unexpected ways in which they can interact.
>>
>> For example, I am now working on what I initially thought was a 
>> one-liner fix for
>> PR 84164 but it has expanded into a 3-patch series with a midend 
>> component and
>> target-specific changes for 2 ports.
>>
>> These issues are very hard to catch during review and normal testing, 
>> and can sometimes take months of deep testing by
>> fuzzing and massive codebase rebuilds to expose, so the closer the 
>> commit is to a release
>> the higher the risk is that an obscure edge case will be unnoticed and 
>> unfixed in the release.
>>
>> So the priority at this stage is to minimise the risk of destabilising 
>> the codebase,
>> as opposed to taking in new features and desirable performance 
>> improvements (like your patch!)
>>
>> That is the rationale for delaying committing such changes until the 
>> start
>> of GCC 9 development. But again, this is up to the aarch64 maintainers.
>> I'm sure the patch will be a perfectly fine and desirable commit for 
>> GCC 9.
>> This is just my perspective as maintainer of the arm port.
> 
> Thanks. Your explanation makes the situation pretty clear and it sounds 
> very reasonable. I'll put the patch on hold until development is open 
> again.
> 
> Regards,
> Luis

With GCC 9 development open, i take it this patch is worth considering 
again?

Thanks,
Luis

  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-07 14:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-02 14:38 [PATCH] " Luis Machado
2018-02-02 14:57 ` Kyrill Tkachov
2018-02-06 15:04   ` [PATCH, v2] " Luis Machado
2018-02-08 11:48     ` Kyrill Tkachov
2018-02-08 12:45       ` Luis Machado
2018-05-07 14:28         ` Luis Machado [this message]
2018-05-08 14:09           ` Kyrill Tkachov
2018-05-09 12:46             ` Luis Machado
2018-05-09 13:55               ` Kyrill Tkachov
2018-05-10 10:56                 ` Luis Machado
2018-05-11 10:29                   ` Kyrill Tkachov
2018-05-14 20:50                     ` Luis Machado
2018-05-15  8:17                       ` Kyrill Tkachov
2018-05-15 16:58                       ` James Greenhalgh

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