From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from hamza.pair.com (hamza.pair.com [209.68.5.143]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9AD263857C71 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2020 22:51:04 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 sourceware.org 9AD263857C71 Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=pfeifer.com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=gerald@pfeifer.com Received: from hamza.pair.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hamza.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16D1533E78; Tue, 29 Dec 2020 17:51:04 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.1.5] (77.118.226.34.wireless.dyn.drei.com [77.118.226.34]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by hamza.pair.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7A5F833E77; Tue, 29 Dec 2020 17:51:03 -0500 (EST) Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 23:50:59 +0100 (CET) From: Gerald Pfeifer To: Martin Jambor cc: gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org Subject: Re: [committed] doc: Remove HSAIL from Language Standards In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <20201228205131.A82DD33E4A@hamza.pair.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.2 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, KAM_DMARC_STATUS, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS, TXREP autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Gcc-patches mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 29 Dec 2020 22:51:06 -0000 On Tue, 29 Dec 2020, Martin Jambor wrote: >> commit 7e999bd84f47205dc44b0f2dc90b53b3c888ca48 >> Author: Gerald Pfeifer >> Date: Mon Dec 28 21:41:55 2020 +0100 >> >> doc: Remove HSAIL from Language Standards >> >> Support for HSAIL has been deprecated with GCC 10 and their web server >> has been down for weeks. Please note the above. > The HSAIL/BRIG consuming front-end has not been removed, as opposed to > the HSAIL/BRIG emitting back-end which was, and is still part of the > compiler, so this should not have been applied, I'm afraid. This section in the documentation is about language standards and reference to those standards. hsafoundation.com literally has been dead for a while, and there is not (evident) other location where the standard appears vailable. Also, wasn't the latest version 1.0.3 whereas our doc snippet still referred to 1.0.1. > Given the state of HSAIL, the front-end is probably not very useful > either and so we may remove it in near term too, but it seems to still > mostly work and causes no trouble, so at least for now it stayed. > > Can you please revert this? A simple revert does not appear appropriate, but if you have a strong preference and see a benefit for our users, we surely can put something back in again. In that case, should the version updated to 1.0.3? Apart from that and the defunct web site, what are other changes compared to the status pre commit 7e999bd84f47205dc44b0f2dc90b53b3c888ca48 ? Can you propose some text / changes taking into account the deprecation and related developments? Can be rough, and I'll take care of the patch. Gerald