From: Jason Merrill <jason@redhat.com>
To: Mark Wielaard <mark@klomp.org>, Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>
Cc: gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org, tom@tromey.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/5] Make sure that static data member constexpr isn't optimized away in test.
Date: Tue, 9 Feb 2021 14:40:12 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <fe81267c-ae2a-2a3e-70a5-3a8e83611bb8@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <02d2f197-ea05-79bb-d6e5-c462fa46c59e@redhat.com>
On 9/1/20 2:46 PM, Jason Merrill wrote:
> On 8/25/20 5:19 AM, Mark Wielaard wrote:
>> On Mon, 2020-08-24 at 17:38 -0400, Jason Merrill wrote:
>>>> This looks incorrect to me, that is a workaround for a real GCC bug.
>>>>
>>>> Shouldn't we instead do something like (untested) following patch?
>>>> I mean, for DWARF < 5 the static data members were using DW_TAG_member,
>>>> which has been always marked by the function, so IMHO we should also
>>>> always
>>>> mark the DW_TAG_variables at the class scope that replaced those.
>>>
>>> The earlier behavior seems like an accident, that happened because we
>>> always need to emit information about non-static data members. I don't
>>> think we should take it as guidance.
>>
>> Maybe the reason they got emitted this way was an accident on the GCC
>> side. But I don't think it is an accident on the GDB side. At least
>> looking at the various gdb testcases, the intention is to show a
>> struct/class type as defined to the user, which includes both the
>> static and non-static data members of a class.
>
> That would make sense.
So, GDB prefers no pruning of members...
>>> In this case one reason we don't emit debug info is because (before
>>> C++17) there's no definition of 'b'. After C++17 the in-class
>>> declaration of 'b' is a definition, but we don't have to give it a
>>> symbol, so there's still nothing for the debug info to describe.
>>
>> But don't we describe other parts of a type that don't have a symbol as
>> part of the debug info?
>
> It seems that currently we describe unused/undefined functions, but not
> unused nested types/typedefs.
> On 8/25/20 8:41 AM, Jakub Jelinek wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 05:38:28PM -0400, Jason Merrill via
>> Gcc-patches wrote:
>>>
>>> This issue doesn't seem specific to class members; it also affects
>>> namespace-scope C++17 inline variables:
>>>
>>> inline const int var = 42;
>>> int main() { return var; }
>>>
>>> Compiling this testcase with -g doesn't emit any debug info for 'var'
>>> even
>>> though it's used.
>>>
>>> Should we assume that if a variable with DW_AT_const_value is
>>> TREE_USED, we
>>> need to write out debug info for it?
>>
>> I guess it is a question of how exactly the (default on)
>> -feliminate-unused-debug-symbols should behave with different kind of
>> entities.
>>
>> One thing are the non-inline static data members without const/constexpr or
>> without initializer in the class. Those need a definition if they are ever
>> used, so it is probably fine to only emit them in the class in the TU where
>> they are defined. But note that e.g. with -fdebug-types-section we still
>> force them to be output in class and do no pruning (and the pruning actually
>> makes dwz less efficient unless dwz is tought to not only merge the DIEs
>> with the same children and attributes, but also reconstruct more complete
>> DIEs out of several less complete ones for the same class).
>
> Right, this gets at Mark's point above. How much pruning do we want to
> do of class bodies? We currently do some, but how much benefit does
> that actually give us? Is it worth the cost?
...and our deduplication mechanisms prefer no pruning of members.
>> Another case is non-inline static const data member with initializer,
>> do we track non-odr uses e.g. during constant evaluation and if so, should
>> that result in the static data member appearing? Because if the static
>> const data member with initializer is never odr used, it doesn't have to be
>> ever defined and so it might never appear in the debug info.
>>
>> Another case are inline vars, shall we treat as being used just that they
>> were used in some constant expression, or do only odr uses count?
>
> If the goal of debug info is to be able to evaluate the same expressions
> that appear in the source, constant uses need to count, too. I wonder
> how we could associate the uses with their context so pruning works
> properly.
For GCC 11, I think let's fix the regression with your (Jakub) earlier
patch, maybe only for DIEs with DW_AT_const_value.
For GCC 12, maybe we want to stop pruning any class members by default.
Jason
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-02-09 19:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-08-24 12:56 BoF DWARF5 patches Mark Wielaard
2020-08-24 12:56 ` [PATCH 1/5] Don't enable -gvariable-location-views by default for DWARF5 Mark Wielaard
2020-08-24 17:38 ` Jakub Jelinek
2020-08-24 20:12 ` Mark Wielaard
2020-08-25 4:05 ` Alexandre Oliva
2020-08-25 7:27 ` Richard Biener
2020-08-25 9:24 ` Mark Wielaard
2020-08-26 12:22 ` Alexandre Oliva
2020-09-29 11:15 ` Mark Wielaard
2020-08-24 12:56 ` [PATCH 2/5] Make sure that static data member constexpr isn't optimized away in test Mark Wielaard
2020-08-24 17:40 ` Jakub Jelinek
2020-08-24 20:17 ` Mark Wielaard
2020-08-24 20:59 ` Tom Tromey
2020-08-24 21:38 ` Jason Merrill
2020-08-25 9:19 ` Mark Wielaard
2020-09-01 18:46 ` Jason Merrill
2021-02-09 19:40 ` Jason Merrill [this message]
2021-02-09 19:55 ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-02-09 23:15 ` Jakub Jelinek
2020-08-25 12:41 ` Jakub Jelinek
2020-08-24 12:56 ` [PATCH 3/5] Add DWARF5 variants of assembly scan tests that use DW_FORM_implicit_const Mark Wielaard
2020-08-24 17:44 ` Jakub Jelinek
2020-08-24 20:26 ` Mark Wielaard
2020-09-17 16:03 ` Mark Wielaard
2020-09-17 16:45 ` Jakub Jelinek
2020-08-24 12:56 ` [PATCH 4/5] Default to DWARF5 Mark Wielaard
2020-08-24 12:56 ` [PATCH 5/5] Add --gdwarf-5 to ASM_SPEC Mark Wielaard
2020-08-26 21:37 ` Duplicate .debug_lines (Was: [PATCH 5/5] Add --gdwarf-5 to ASM_SPEC) Mark Wielaard
2020-08-26 23:38 ` H.J. Lu
2020-08-29 12:23 ` Mark Wielaard
2020-08-29 14:34 ` H.J. Lu
2020-08-29 15:23 ` Mark Wielaard
2020-08-29 15:43 ` H.J. Lu
2020-08-29 16:32 ` Mark Wielaard
2020-08-29 16:44 ` H.J. Lu
2020-08-29 17:32 ` Mark Wielaard
2020-09-07 12:37 ` [PATCH] gas: Don't error when .debug_line already exists, unless .loc was used Mark Wielaard
2020-08-25 9:32 ` BoF DWARF5 patches Mark Wielaard
2020-09-09 19:57 ` BoF DWARF5 patches (25% .debug section size reduction) Mark Wielaard
2020-09-10 11:16 ` Jakub Jelinek
2020-09-10 11:45 ` Jakub Jelinek
2020-09-15 18:40 ` [PATCH] debug: Pass --gdwarf-N to assembler if fixed gas is detected during configure Jakub Jelinek
2020-09-16 12:33 ` Mark Wielaard
2020-09-16 13:31 ` Jakub Jelinek
2020-09-18 15:21 ` Mark Wielaard
2020-10-06 15:54 ` Mark Wielaard
2020-10-06 20:57 ` Jason Merrill
2020-10-07 11:29 ` Mark Wielaard
2020-09-29 13:56 ` BoF DWARF5 patches (25% .debug section size reduction) Mark Wielaard
2020-11-15 22:41 ` Mark Wielaard
2021-01-15 16:16 ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-01-18 10:19 ` Sebastian Huber
2021-01-18 11:18 ` Mark Wielaard
2020-11-17 0:19 ` Jeff Law
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