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From: Andrea Corallo <andrea.corallo@arm.com>
To: Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>
Cc: Andrew Pinski <pinskia@gmail.com>,
	 Richard Earnshaw <richard.earnshaw@arm.com>,  nd <nd@arm.com>,
	 GCC Patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Aarch64: Add branch diluter pass
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2020 09:01:33 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <gkrwo2twg4y.fsf@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200723224715.GK32057@gate.crashing.org> (Segher Boessenkool's message of "Thu, 23 Jul 2020 17:47:15 -0500")

Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org> writes:

> On Wed, Jul 22, 2020 at 09:45:08PM +0200, Andrea Corallo wrote:
>> > Should that actually be a sliding window, or should there actually just
>> > not be more than N branches per aligned block of machine code?  Like,
>> > per fetch group.
>> >
>> > Can you not use ASM_OUTPUT_ALIGN_WITH_NOP (or ASM_OUTPUT_MAX_SKIP_ALIGN
>> > even) then?  GCC has infrastructure for that, already.
>> 
>> Correct, it's a sliding window only because the real load address is not
>> known to the compiler and the algorithm is conservative.  I believe we
>> could use ASM_OUTPUT_ALIGN_WITH_NOP if we align each function to (al
>> least) the granule size, then we should be able to insert 'nop aligned
>> labels' precisely.
>
> Yeah, we have similar issues on Power...  Our "granule" (fetch group
> size, in our terminology) is 32 typically, but we align functions to
> just 16.  This is causing some problems, but aligning to bigger
> boundaries isn't a very happy alternative either.  WIP...

Interesting, I was expecting other CPUs to have a similar mechanism.

> (We don't have this exact same problem, because our non-ancient cores
> can just predict *all* branches in the same cycle).
>
>> My main fear is that given new cores tend to have big granules code size
>> would blow.  One advantage of the implemented algorithm is that even if
>> slightly conservative it's impacting code size only where an high branch
>> density shows up.
>
> What is "big granules" for you?

N1 is 8 instructions so 32 bytes as well, I guess this may grow further
(my speculation).

  Andrea

  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-24  7:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 25+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-22 10:02 [PATCH 1/2] Add new RTX instruction class FILLER_INSN Andrea Corallo
2020-07-22 10:09 ` [PATCH 2/2] Aarch64: Add branch diluter pass Andrea Corallo
2020-07-22 10:39   ` Andrew Pinski
2020-07-22 13:53     ` Andrea Corallo
2020-07-22 16:43       ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-07-22 19:45         ` Andrea Corallo
2020-07-23 22:47           ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-07-24  7:01             ` Andrea Corallo [this message]
2020-07-24 11:53               ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-07-24 13:21                 ` Andrea Corallo
2020-07-24 22:09   ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-07-28 18:55     ` Andrea Corallo
2020-07-28 22:07       ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-07-22 12:24 ` [PATCH 1/2] Add new RTX instruction class FILLER_INSN Richard Biener
2020-07-22 13:16   ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2020-07-22 14:51   ` Andrea Corallo
2020-07-22 18:41 ` Joseph Myers
2020-07-24 21:18 ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-07-26 18:19   ` Eric Botcazou
2020-07-28 19:29   ` Andrea Corallo
2020-08-19  9:13   ` Andrea Corallo
2020-08-19 10:52     ` Richard Sandiford
2020-08-19 17:28     ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-08-19 16:51 ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-08-19 17:47   ` Andrea Corallo

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