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From: Ian Lance Taylor <iant@google.com>
To: Zdenek Dvorak <rakdver@kam.mff.cuni.cz>
Cc: Mike Stump <mrs@apple.com>, gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: [patch] Move loop structures to gc memory
Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 22:35:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3tzufvxto.fsf@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20070514214121.GA25227@kam.mff.cuni.cz>

Zdenek Dvorak <rakdver@kam.mff.cuni.cz> writes:

> > > On May 14, 2007, at 11:12 AM, Ian Lance Taylor wrote:
> > Using ggc_free with GC just puts us on the road back to the problems
> > which led us to introduce GC in the first place: we didn't track our
> > memory allocations properly, so we got confused and got weird crashes.
> > We introduced GC so that it didn't matter whether we tracked our
> > memory allocations properly or not.  There was no other reason for GC.
> > When we use ggc_free, we lose the whole point of having GC.  It just
> > does not make sense.
> 
> well, sort of.  There are some structures that are hard to keep track of
> (trees and rtl, and maybe a few others), and I think it is OK to have gc
> for them.  I guess most of the other thinks that are currently kept in
> GC should not be, but it would be a bit hard to keep track of all GC
> roots if we moved them out.  Using ggc_free of course is not a nice
> solution, but not using it for structures for that we are sure that they
> are no longer reachable is wasteful.

I think that correctly keeping track of the various GC roots is
precisely as hard as correctly using ggc_free.  Both are cases where
we need to correctly determine whether we have a live pointer into GC
memory.  And indeed we've had a series of bugs over the years in which
static variables were not correctly annotated as being GC roots, just
as we've had several bugs in which ggc_free was used incorrectly.

Setting a pointer to NULL is always safe.

Ian

  reply	other threads:[~2007-05-14 22:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-05-13 18:08 Zdenek Dvorak
2007-05-13 18:20 ` Richard Guenther
2007-05-13 18:33   ` Zdenek Dvorak
2007-05-13 18:49   ` Daniel Berlin
2007-05-14 18:13 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2007-05-14 20:58   ` Zdenek Dvorak
2007-05-14 21:19   ` Mike Stump
2007-05-14 21:28     ` Ian Lance Taylor
2007-05-14 21:41       ` Zdenek Dvorak
2007-05-14 22:35         ` Ian Lance Taylor [this message]
2007-05-14 22:32       ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2007-05-14 22:38         ` Ian Lance Taylor
2007-05-14 22:55           ` Zdenek Dvorak
2007-05-14 23:02           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2007-05-14 23:25             ` Ian Lance Taylor
2007-05-15  2:14               ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2007-05-16  1:23                 ` Mark Mitchell
2007-05-16  4:42                   ` Mike Stump
2007-05-16  6:55                   ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-05-16 15:54                     ` Daniel Berlin
2007-05-17  0:18                       ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-05-17  0:33                         ` Mark Mitchell
2007-05-17  4:11                           ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-05-17  4:18                             ` Mark Mitchell
2007-05-17  5:21                               ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-05-17  0:48                         ` Ian Lance Taylor
2007-05-17  3:30                           ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-05-17  4:30                             ` Daniel Berlin
2007-05-17  5:38                               ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-05-17 14:38                                 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2007-05-17 19:50                                   ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-05-17 16:03                           ` Mike Stump
2007-05-17 17:38                             ` Daniel Berlin
2007-05-17 19:57                               ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-05-17 20:06                                 ` Zdenek Dvorak
2007-05-18  8:33                                   ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-05-18 15:09                                     ` Daniel Berlin
2007-05-18 16:53                                       ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-05-18 17:37                                         ` Daniel Berlin
2007-05-18 17:46                                         ` Michael Matz
2007-05-18 18:50                                           ` Mike Stump
2007-05-17 20:11                                 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2007-05-17 14:24                       ` Zdenek Dvorak
2007-05-17 17:46                         ` Daniel Berlin
2007-05-17 17:58                         ` Richard Guenther
2007-05-14 23:57           ` Mike Stump
2007-05-15  4:07             ` Steven Bosscher
2007-05-15  6:15               ` Mike Stump
2007-05-15  7:02                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2007-05-15  8:35                   ` Mike Stump
2007-05-15 15:00                     ` Ian Lance Taylor
2007-05-15 15:20                       ` Michael Matz
2007-05-15 21:49                         ` Ian Lance Taylor
2007-05-16  4:37                           ` Mike Stump
2007-05-16  4:42                             ` Ian Lance Taylor
2007-05-16  4:56                               ` Mike Stump
2007-05-16  4:30                       ` Mike Stump

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