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From: Palmer Dabbelt <palmer@dabbelt.com>
To: monk.chiang@sifive.com
Cc: jeffreyalaw@gmail.com, rguenther@suse.de,
	gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org, apinski@marvell.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] match: Do not select to branchless expression when target has movcc pattern [PR113095]
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2024 19:30:50 -0800 (PST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <mhng-795d0cf1-61a5-416e-ba6f-43a45120b673@palmer-ri-x1c9> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAMpi97z2_kHfqagQ4wPDsxCQ=MhY0nx3tatC++xvgoEQHsvoQQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Wed, 17 Jan 2024 19:19:58 PST (-0800), monk.chiang@sifive.com wrote:
> Thanks for your advice!! I agree it should be fixed in the RISC-V backend
> when expansion.
>
>
> On Wed, Jan 17, 2024 at 10:37 PM Jeff Law <jeffreyalaw@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 1/17/24 05:14, Richard Biener wrote:
>> > On Wed, 17 Jan 2024, Monk Chiang wrote:
>> >
>> >> This allows the backend to generate movcc instructions, if target
>> >> machine has movcc pattern.
>> >>
>> >> branchless-cond.c needs to be updated since some target machines have
>> >> conditional move instructions, and the experssion will not change to
>> >> branchless expression.
>> >
>> > While I agree this pattern should possibly be applied during RTL
>> > expansion or instruction selection on x86 which also has movcc
>> > the multiplication is cheaper.  So I don't think this isn't the way to
>> go.
>> >
>> > I'd rather revert the change than trying to "fix" it this way?
>> WRT reverting -- the patch in question's sole purpose was to enable
>> branchless sequences for that very same code.  Reverting would regress
>> performance on a variety of micro-architectures.  IIUC, the issue is
>> that the SiFive part in question has a fusion which allows it to do the
>> branchy sequence cheaply.
>>
>> ISTM this really needs to be addressed during expansion and most likely
>> with a RISC-V target twiddle for the micro-archs which have
>> short-forward-branch optimizations.

IIRC I ran into some of these middle-end interactions a year or two ago 
and determined that we'd need middle-end changes to get this working 
smoothly -- essentially replacing the expander checks for a MOVCC insn  
with some sort of costing.

Without that, we're just going to end up with some missed optimizations 
that favor one way or the other.

>>
>> jeff
>>

      reply	other threads:[~2024-01-18  3:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-17  9:50 Monk Chiang
2024-01-17 12:14 ` Richard Biener
2024-01-17 14:37   ` Jeff Law
2024-01-18  3:19     ` Monk Chiang
2024-01-18  3:30       ` Palmer Dabbelt [this message]

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