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From: Richard Sandiford <richard.sandiford@arm.com>
To: Andrew Carlotti <andrew.carlotti@arm.com>
Cc: gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org,  Richard Earnshaw <richard.earnshaw@arm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] aarch64: FMV feature list fixes
Date: Wed, 10 Apr 2024 19:51:44 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <mpt4jc9qce7.fsf@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9882a5b0-3970-5949-2fad-022cd06341f6@e124511.cambridge.arm.com> (Andrew Carlotti's message of "Wed, 10 Apr 2024 18:11:15 +0100")

Andrew Carlotti <andrew.carlotti@arm.com> writes:
> On Wed, Apr 10, 2024 at 05:42:05PM +0100, Richard Sandiford wrote:
>> Andrew Carlotti <andrew.carlotti@arm.com> writes:
>> > On Tue, Apr 09, 2024 at 04:43:16PM +0100, Richard Sandiford wrote:
>> >> Andrew Carlotti <andrew.carlotti@arm.com> writes:
>> >> > The first three patches are trivial changes to the feature list to reflect
>> >> > recent changes in the ACLE.  Patch 4 removes most of the FMV multiversioning
>> >> > features that don't work at the moment, and should be entirely uncontroversial.
>> >> >
>> >> > Patch 5 handles the remaining cases, where there's an inconsistency in how
>> >> > features are named in the current FMV specification compared to the existing
>> >> > command line options.  It might be better to instead preserve the "memtag2",
>> >> > "ssbs2" and "ls64_accdata" names for now; I'd be happy to commit either
>> >> > version.
>> >> 
>> >> Yeah, I suppose patch 5 leaves things in a somewhat awkward state,
>> >> since e.g.:
>> >> 
>> >> -AARCH64_OPT_FMV_EXTENSION("memtag", MEMTAG, (), (), (), "")
>> >> +AARCH64_OPT_EXTENSION("memtag", MEMTAG, (), (), (), "")
>> >>  
>> >> -AARCH64_FMV_FEATURE("memtag2", MEMTAG2, (MEMTAG))
>> >> +AARCH64_FMV_FEATURE("memtag", MEMTAG2, (MEMTAG))
>> >> 
>> >> seems to drop "memtag2" and FEAT_MEMTAG, but keep "memtag" and
>> >> FEAT_MEMTAG2.  Is that right?
>> >
>> > That's deliberate. The FEAT_MEMTAG bit in __aarch64_cpu_features is defined to
>> > match the definition of FEAT_MTE in the architecture, and likewise for
>> > FEAT_MEMTAG2/FEAT_MTE2.  However, in Binutils the "+memtag" extension enables
>> > both FEAT_MTE and FEAT_MTE2 instructions (although none of the FEAT_MTE2
>> > instructions can be generated from GCC without inline assembly).  The FMV
>> > specification in the ACLE currently uses names "memtag" and "memtag2" that
>> > match the architecture names, but arguably don't match the command line
>> > extension names.  I'm advocating for that to change to match the extension
>> > names in command line options.
>> 
>> Hmm, ok.  I agree it makes sense for the user-visible FMV namnes to match
>> the command line.  But shouldn't __aarch64_cpu_features either (a) use exactly
>> the same names as the architecture or (b) use exactly the same names as the
>> command-line (mangled where necessary)?  It seems that we're instead
>> using a third convention that doesn't exactly match the other two.
>
> I agree that the name isn't one I would choose now, but I don't think it matters much that it's inconsistent.

I kind-of think it does though.  Given...

>> That is, I can see the rationale for "memtag" => FEAT_MTE2 and
>> "memtag" => FEAT_MEMTAG.  It just seems odd to have "memtag" => FEAT_MEMTAG2
>> (where MEMTAG2 is an alias of MTE2).
>> 
>> How much leeway do we have to change the __aarch64_cpu_features names?
>> Is it supposed to be a public API (as opposed to ABI)?
>
> I think we're designing it to be capable of being a public API, but we haven't
> yet made it one.  That's partly why I've kept the enum value names the same as
> in LLVM so far.

...this, I don't want to sleep-walk into a situation where we have
one naming convention for the architecture, one for the attributes,
and a third one for the API.  If we're not in a position to commit
to a consistent naming scheme for the API by GCC 14 then it might be
better to remove the FMV features in 5/5 for GCC 14 and revisit in GCC 15.

A patch to do that is pre-approved if you agree (but please say
if you don't).

Thanks,
Richard

  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-10 18:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-09 13:24 Andrew Carlotti
2024-04-09 13:24 ` [PATCH 1/5] aarch64: Reorder FMV feature priorities Andrew Carlotti
2024-04-09 13:25 ` [PATCH 2/5] aarch64: Don't use FEAT_MAX as array length Andrew Carlotti
2024-04-09 15:33   ` Richard Sandiford
2024-04-10 12:33     ` Andrew Carlotti
2024-04-09 13:26 ` [PATCH 3/5] aarch64: Fix typo and make rdma/rdm alias for FMV Andrew Carlotti
2024-04-09 13:26 ` [PATCH 4/5] aarch64: Remove unsupported FMV features Andrew Carlotti
2024-04-09 13:27 ` [PATCH 5/5] aarch64: Combine some " Andrew Carlotti
2024-04-09 15:43 ` [PATCH 0/5] aarch64: FMV feature list fixes Richard Sandiford
2024-04-10 11:10   ` Andrew Carlotti
2024-04-10 16:42     ` Richard Sandiford
2024-04-10 17:11       ` Andrew Carlotti
2024-04-10 18:51         ` Richard Sandiford [this message]
2024-04-10 19:03           ` Andrew Carlotti

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