From: Richard Sandiford <richard.sandiford@arm.com>
To: Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>
Cc: Richard Earnshaw <richard.earnshaw@arm.com>,
Kyrylo Tkachov <kyrylo.tkachov@arm.com>,
gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: AArch64 bfloat16 mangling
Date: Thu, 09 Mar 2023 17:14:11 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <mpt8rg526fw.fsf@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Y9o+dJnVhavp+Edg@tucnak> (Jakub Jelinek's message of "Wed, 1 Feb 2023 11:27:00 +0100")
Sorry for the slow response.
Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com> writes:
> Hi!
>
> On Mon, Jan 30, 2023 at 11:07:23PM +0000, Richard Sandiford wrote:
>> Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com> writes:
>> > https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc-patches/2022-November/605965.html
>> > - ABI - aarch64: Add bfloat16_t support for aarch64 (enabling it in GCC 14
>> > will be harder)
>>
>> Sorry for the delay on this. There's still an ongoing debate about
>> whether to keep the current AArch64 mangling or switch to the new one.
>
> If it helps, I'll try to repeat the options I see:
> 1) don't do anything right now; problem is if it is done later (GCC 14+),
> libstdc++ would need to conditionalize the std::bfloat16_t RTTI symbols,
> have them in one symbol version for x86 and in another for aarch64
> 2) similarly to x86 __bf16 would be the underlying type for std::bfloat16_t
> where the latter needs to act as usable extended floating point type with
> all arithmetics, mangling is DF16b which is how std::bfloat16_t should
> mangle according to the Itanitum ABI pull request; decltype (0.0bf16) is
> __bf16; disadvantage is that existing code using __bf16 in argument
> passing and templates changes mangling
> 3) keep __bf16 as is with its u6__bf16 mangling and use for std::bfloat16_t
> a distinct type (the latter would be the bfloat16_type_node);
> decltype (0.0bf16) would be that new type which would mangle DF16b and
> would allow arithmetics/casts etc. How exactly would the new type be
> named is up to you (__bfloat16_t, __bfloat16, __std_bfloat16_t,
> whatever else); in theory it could be created without a user accessible
> name as well; libstdc++ only uses decltype (0.0bf16) to get at it
> 4) like 3), including keeping the mangling of __bf16 as u6__bf16, but
> make also __bf16 a usable arithmetic type, not just a storage only type;
> for C++ FE it would be simply another non-standard type like say
> __float128 is on x86
> 5) like 2), but make the mangling of __bf16 depend on flag_abi_version;
> flag_abi_version >= 18 (aka GCC 13+ ABI) mangles it as DF16b,
> flag_abi_version < 18 mangles it as u6__bf16; the default for
> -fabi-compat-version= is I think GCC 8 ABI compatibility, so GCC normally
> emits mangling aliases, so say void foo (std::bfloat16_t) {} would
> mangle as _Z3fooDF16b and for a few years there would be
> an alias _Z3foou6__bf16 to it
>
> Of course, it is possible I've missed some options.
>
> Jakub
We decided to keep the current mangling of __bf16 and use it for
std::bfloat16_t too. __bf16 will become a non-standard arithmetic type.
This will be an explicit diversion from the Itanium ABI.
I think that's equivalent to your (2) without the part about following
the Itanium ABI.
Thanks,
Richard
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2023-03-09 17:14 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2023-01-30 9:50 Patch ping Jakub Jelinek
2023-01-30 23:07 ` Richard Sandiford
2023-02-01 10:27 ` AArch64 bfloat16 mangling Jakub Jelinek
2023-03-09 17:14 ` Richard Sandiford [this message]
2023-03-10 8:37 ` Jakub Jelinek
2023-03-10 8:43 ` Richard Sandiford
2023-03-10 11:30 ` Jakub Jelinek
2023-03-10 11:50 ` Richard Sandiford
2023-03-10 15:35 ` Jakub Jelinek
2023-03-10 16:25 ` Richard Sandiford
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