From: Richard Sandiford <richard.sandiford@arm.com>
To: Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>
Cc: Hongtao Liu via Gcc-patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>,
Vladimir Makarov <vmakarov@redhat.com>,
Hongtao Liu <crazylht@gmail.com>,
dcb314@hotmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH][PR target/97540] Don't extract memory from operand for normal memory constraint.
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2020 17:16:51 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <mptwnz97y0s.fsf@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201029110156.GD3788@tucnak> (Jakub Jelinek's message of "Thu, 29 Oct 2020 12:01:56 +0100")
Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com> writes:
> On Tue, Oct 27, 2020 at 11:13:21AM +0000, Richard Sandiford via Gcc-patches wrote:
>> Sorry to stick my oar in, but I think we should reconsider the
>> bcst_mem_operand approach. It seems like these patches (and the
>> previous one) are fighting against the principle that operands
>> cannot be arbitrary expressions.
>
> Many operands already are fairly complex expressions, so it is unclear how
> this changes that.
But the things subject to constraint matching currently have to be
SCRATCHes, SUBREGs, REGs, MEMs or constants. The address inside
a MEM can be complex, but even that has certain limits (so that LRA
knows what to do with addresses that need reloading).
Matching something like VEC_DUPLICATE in a constraint is new in
that thing being constrained isn't conceptually an object
(only the operand of the VEC_DUPLICATE is).
> And LRA etc. already handles SUBREGs of MEM which is kind of similar to
> this.
Yeah, but SUBREGs of MEMs are a bit of a legacy feature :-)
It would be great to remove them at some point…
>> This kind of thing was attempted long ago (even before my time!)
>> for SIGN_EXTEND on MIPS. It ended up causing more problems than
>> it solved and in the end it had to be taken out. I'm worried that
>> we might end up going through the same cycle again.
>>
>> Also, this LRA code is extremely performance-sensitive in terms
>> of compile time: it's often at the top or near the top of the profile.
>> So adding calls to new functions like extract_mem_from_operand for
>> a fairly niche case probably isn't a good trade-off.
>
> It can be just an inline function that looks through just the target
> selected rtxes rather than arbitrary ones (derived from *.md properties or
> something).
Having something in the .md file sounds good. The more information the
generators have, the more chance they have to do something efficient.
>> I think we should instead find a nice(?) syntax for generating separate
>> patterns for the two bcst_vector_operand alternatives from a single
>> .md pattern. That would fit the existing model much more closely.
>
> That would result in thousands of new patterns, I'm not sure it is a good
> idea. Pretty much all AVX512* instructions allow those.
Yeah, I hadn't realised that.
Thanks,
Richard
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-10-29 17:16 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-10-27 6:53 Hongtao Liu
2020-10-27 11:13 ` Richard Sandiford
2020-10-28 1:32 ` Hongtao Liu
2020-10-28 18:46 ` Richard Sandiford
2020-10-29 1:20 ` Hongtao Liu
2020-10-29 17:00 ` Richard Sandiford
2020-11-02 7:12 ` Hongtao Liu
2020-11-02 19:03 ` Richard Sandiford
2020-10-29 5:33 ` Hongtao Liu
2020-10-29 17:03 ` Richard Sandiford
2020-10-31 17:16 ` Hans-Peter Nilsson
2020-10-29 11:01 ` Jakub Jelinek
2020-10-29 17:16 ` Richard Sandiford [this message]
2020-11-02 19:40 ` Vladimir Makarov
2020-11-03 13:51 ` Richard Sandiford
2020-11-04 5:14 ` Hongtao Liu
2020-11-04 10:19 ` Richard Sandiford
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