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From: Richard Sandiford <richard.sandiford@arm.com>
To: "Richard Earnshaw \(lists\)" <Richard.Earnshaw@arm.com>
Cc: Richard Henderson <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
	gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org, marcus.shawcroft@arm.com,
	segher@kernel.crashing.org, Wilco.Dijkstra@arm.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 00/11] aarch64: Implement TImode comparisons
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 2020 17:32:28 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <mptwo6rs1cz.fsf@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <01ec0411-b9b0-7233-271e-98e5dc36c6e1@arm.com> (Richard Earnshaw's message of "Tue, 7 Apr 2020 10:52:10 +0100")

"Richard Earnshaw (lists)" <Richard.Earnshaw@arm.com> writes:
> On 06/04/2020 12:19, Richard Sandiford wrote:
>> "Richard Earnshaw (lists)" <Richard.Earnshaw@arm.com> writes:
>>> On 03/04/2020 16:03, Richard Sandiford wrote:
>>>> "Richard Earnshaw (lists)" <Richard.Earnshaw@arm.com> writes:
>>>>> On 03/04/2020 13:27, Richard Sandiford wrote:
>>>>>> "Richard Earnshaw (lists)" <Richard.Earnshaw@arm.com> writes:
>>>>>>> On 02/04/2020 19:53, Richard Henderson via Gcc-patches wrote:
>>>>>>>> This is attacking case 3 of PR 94174.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In v2, I unify the various subtract-with-borrow and add-with-carry
>>>>>>>> patterns that also output flags with unspecs.  As suggested by
>>>>>>>> Richard Sandiford during review of v1.  It does seem cleaner.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Really?  I didn't need to use any unspecs for the Arm version of this.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> R.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> See https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc-patches/2020-April/543063.html
>>>>>> (including quoted context) for how we got here.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The same problem affects the existing aarch64 patterns like
>>>>>> *usub<GPI:mode>3_carryinC.  Although that pattern avoids unspecs,
>>>>>> the compare:CC doesn't seem to be correct.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Richard
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> But I don't think you can use ANY_EXTEND in these comparisons.  It
>>>>> doesn't describe what the instruction does, since the instruction does
>>>>> not really extend the values first.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah, that was the starting point in the thread above too.  And using
>>>> zero_extend in the existing *usub<GPI:mode>3_carryinC pattern:
>>>>
>>>> (define_insn "*usub<GPI:mode>3_carryinC"
>>>>   [(set (reg:CC CC_REGNUM)
>>>>   	(compare:CC
>>>> 	  (zero_extend:<DWI>
>>>> 	    (match_operand:GPI 1 "register_operand" "r"))
>>>> 	  (plus:<DWI>
>>>> 	    (zero_extend:<DWI>
>>>> 	      (match_operand:GPI 2 "register_operand" "r"))
>>>> 	    (match_operand:<DWI> 3 "aarch64_borrow_operation" ""))))
>>>>    (set (match_operand:GPI 0 "register_operand" "=r")
>>>> 	(minus:GPI
>>>> 	  (minus:GPI (match_dup 1) (match_dup 2))
>>>> 	  (match_operand:GPI 4 "aarch64_borrow_operation" "")))]
>>>>    ""
>>>>    "sbcs\\t%<w>0, %<w>1, %<w>2"
>>>>   [(set_attr "type" "adc_reg")]
>>>> )
>>>>
>>>> looks wrong for the same reason.  But the main problem IMO isn't how the
>>>> inputs to the compare:CC are represented, but that we're using compare:CC
>>>> at all.  Using compare doesn't accurately model the effect of SBCS on NZCV
>>>> for all inputs, so if we're going to use a compare here, it can't be :CC.
>>>>
>>>>> I would really expect this patch series to be pretty much a dual of this
>>>>> series that I posted last year for Arm.
>>>>>
>>>>> https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc-patches/2019-October/532180.html
>>>>
>>>> That series uses compares with modes like CC_V and CC_B, so I think
>>>> you're saying that given the choice in the earlier thread between adding
>>>> a new CC mode or using unspecs, you would have preferred a new CC mode,
>>>> is that right?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Yes.  It surprised me, when doing the aarch32 version, just how often
>>> the mid-end parts of the compiler were able to reason about parts of the
>>> parallel insn and optimize things accordingly (eg propagating the truth
>>> of the comparison).  If you use an unspec that can never happen.
>> 
>> That could be changed though.  E.g. we could add something like a
>> simplify_unspec target hook if this becomes a problem (either here
>> or for other unspecs).  A fancy implementation could even use
>> match.pd-style rules in the .md file.
>
> I really don't like that.  It sounds like the top of a long slippery
> slope.  What about all the other cases where the RTL is comprehended by
> the mid-end?

Is it really so bad though?  It's similar to how frontends can define
and fold their own trees, and how targets can define and fold their own
built-in functions.

The CC modes are also quite heavily macro/hook-based.

>> The reason I'm not keen on using special modes for this case is that
>> they'd describe one way in which the result can be used rather than
>> describing what the instruction actually does.  The instruction really
>> does set all four flags to useful values.  The "problem" is that they're
>> not the values associated with a compare between two values, so representing
>> them that way will always lose information.
>> 
>
> Yes, it's true that the rtl -> machine instruction transform is not 100%
> reversible.  That's always been the case, but it's the price we pay for
> a generic IL that describes instructions on multiple architectures.

It's not really reversibility that I'm after (at least not for its
own sake).

If we had a three-input compare_cc rtx_code that described a comparison
involving a carry input, we'd certainly be using it here, because that's
what the instruction does.  Given that we don't have the rtx_code, three
obvious choices are:

(1) Add it.

(2) Continue to represent what the instruction does using an unspec.

(3) Don't try to represent the "three-input compare_cc" operation and
    instead describe a two-input comparison that only yields a valid
    result for a subset of tests.

(1) seems like the best technical solution but would probably be
a lot of work.  I guess the reason I like (2) is that it stays
closest to (1).

Thanks,
Richard

  reply	other threads:[~2020-04-07 16:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-02 18:53 Richard Henderson
2020-04-02 18:53 ` [PATCH v2 01/11] aarch64: Accept 0 as first argument to compares Richard Henderson
2020-04-02 18:53 ` [PATCH v2 02/11] aarch64: Accept zeros in add<GPI>3_carryin Richard Henderson
2020-04-02 18:53 ` [PATCH v2 03/11] aarch64: Provide expander for sub<GPI>3_compare1 Richard Henderson
2020-04-02 18:53 ` [PATCH v2 04/11] aarch64: Introduce aarch64_expand_addsubti Richard Henderson
2020-04-02 18:53 ` [PATCH v2 05/11] aarch64: Use UNSPEC_SBCS for subtract-with-borrow + output flags Richard Henderson
2020-04-09 21:52   ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-04-10  3:50     ` Richard Henderson
2020-04-02 18:53 ` [PATCH v2 06/11] aarch64: Use UNSPEC_ADCS for add-with-carry " Richard Henderson
2020-04-02 18:53 ` [PATCH v2 07/11] aarch64: Remove CC_ADCmode Richard Henderson
2020-04-02 18:53 ` [PATCH v2 08/11] aarch64: Accept -1 as second argument to add<mode>3_carryin Richard Henderson
2020-04-02 18:53 ` [PATCH v2 09/11] aarch64: Adjust result of aarch64_gen_compare_reg Richard Henderson
2020-04-02 18:53 ` [PATCH v2 10/11] aarch64: Implement TImode comparisons Richard Henderson
2020-04-02 18:53 ` [PATCH v2 11/11] aarch64: Implement absti2 Richard Henderson
2020-04-02 18:55 ` [PATCH v2 00/11] aarch64: Implement TImode comparisons Richard Henderson
2020-04-03 11:34 ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2020-04-03 12:27   ` Richard Sandiford
2020-04-03 13:17     ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2020-04-03 15:03       ` Richard Sandiford
2020-04-06  9:27         ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2020-04-06 11:19           ` Richard Sandiford
2020-04-06 12:22             ` Richard Biener
2020-04-08  9:10               ` Richard Sandiford
2020-04-07  9:52             ` Richard Earnshaw (lists)
2020-04-07 16:32               ` Richard Sandiford [this message]
2020-04-07 17:05                 ` Richard Henderson
2020-04-07 19:43               ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-04-07 20:27             ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-04-07 21:43               ` Richard Henderson
2020-04-07 23:58                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-04-08  0:50                   ` Richard Henderson
2020-04-08 20:56                     ` Segher Boessenkool
2020-04-08  9:06               ` Richard Sandiford

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