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From: Richard Sandiford <richard.sandiford@arm.com>
To: Qing Zhao <qing.zhao@oracle.com>
Cc: Qing Zhao via Gcc-patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>,
	Richard Biener <rguenther@suse.de>,
	Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>
Subject: Re: [patch][version 6] add -ftrivial-auto-var-init and variable attribute "uninitialized" to gcc
Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2021 17:15:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <mpty298ufei.fsf@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <A4A2D2E2-5B1F-410E-BF46-917BEDA717E8@oracle.com> (Qing Zhao's message of "Wed, 11 Aug 2021 13:44:34 +0000")

Qing Zhao <qing.zhao@oracle.com> writes:
>> On Aug 11, 2021, at 4:02 AM, Richard Sandiford <richard.sandiford@arm.com> wrote:
>>> I came up with the following solution:
>>> 
>>> Define the IFN_DEFERRED_INIT function as:
>>> 
>>>   LHS = DEFERRED_INIT (SIZE of the DECL, INIT_TYPE, IS_VLA);
>>> 
>>>   if IS_VLA is false, the LHS is the DECL itself,
>>>   if IS_VLA is true, the LHS is the pointer to this DECL that created by
>>>   gimplify_vla_decl.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The benefit of this solution are:
>>> 
>>> 1. Resolved the invalid IR issue;
>>> 2. The call stmt carries the address of the VLA natually;
>>> 
>>> The issue with this solution is:
>>> 
>>> For VLA and non-VLA, the LHS will be different, 
>>> 
>>> Do you see any other potential issues with this solution?
>> 
>> The idea behind the DECL version of the .DEFERRED_INIT semantics was
>> that .DEFERRED_INIT just returns a SIZE-byte value that the caller
>> then assigns to a SIZE-byte lhs (with the caller choosing the lhs).
>> .DEFEREED_INIT itself doesn't read or write memory and so can be const,
>> which in turn allows alias analysis to be more precise.
> Yes. That’s right.
>
>> 
>> If we want to handle the VLA case using pointers instead then I think
>> that needs to be a different IFN.
>> 
>> If we did handle the VLA case using pointers (not expressing an opinion
>> on that), then it would be the caller's job to allocate the VLA and work
>> out the address of the VLA;
>
> the current routine “gimplify_vla_decl” has done this already:
>
> It created a temporary variable for the address of the VLA, and created a call to “alloca” to allocate the VLA.

Right, that's what I mean.  It's this alloca that allocates the VLA
and determines its address.  This address is therefore logically an
input rather than an output to the following zero/pattern initialisation.

In C you wouldn't write:

  addr = alloca(size);
  addr = initialise(size);

to allocate and initialise a size-byte buffer, because initialise()
would need to know the address of the memory it's supposed to initialise.
The same is true for this gimple code.

> My -ftrivial-auto-var-init work just try to use the “address variable of the VLA” in the new .DEFERRED_INIT call to carry it to RTL expansion phase.
>
>
>> this isn't something that .DEFERRED_INIT
>> would work out on the caller's behalf.  The address of the VLA should
>> therefore be an argument to the new IFN, rather than something that
>> the IFN returns.
>
> Then what’s the LHS of this call? Currently the major issue is the LHS is invalid gimple.

For this (different, address-taking, VLA-only) IFN, there would be no lhs.
The IFN would be similar to a memset.

Like I say, this is all hypothetical, based on “if we did handle the VLA
case using pointers”.  As discussed, it would make alias analysis less
precise.  I was just answering the question about whether there were
potential issues.

Thanks,
Richard

  reply	other threads:[~2021-08-11 16:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 60+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-07-27  3:26 Qing Zhao
2021-07-28 20:21 ` Kees Cook
2021-07-28 21:53   ` Qing Zhao
2021-08-09 14:09 ` Richard Biener
2021-08-09 16:38   ` Qing Zhao
2021-08-09 17:14     ` Richard Biener
2021-08-10  7:36     ` Richard Biener
2021-08-10 13:39       ` Qing Zhao
2021-08-10 14:16         ` Richard Biener
2021-08-10 15:02           ` Qing Zhao
2021-08-10 15:22             ` Richard Biener
2021-08-10 15:55               ` Qing Zhao
2021-08-10 20:16               ` Qing Zhao
2021-08-10 22:26                 ` Qing Zhao
2021-08-11  7:02                   ` Richard Biener
2021-08-11 13:33                     ` Qing Zhao
2021-08-11 13:37                       ` Richard Biener
2021-08-11 13:54                         ` Qing Zhao
2021-08-11 13:58                           ` Richard Biener
2021-08-11 14:00                             ` Qing Zhao
2021-08-11 15:30                             ` Qing Zhao
2021-08-11 15:53                               ` Richard Biener
2021-08-11 16:22                                 ` Qing Zhao
2021-08-11 16:55                                   ` Richard Biener
2021-08-11 16:57                                     ` Qing Zhao
2021-08-11 20:30                                     ` Qing Zhao
2021-08-11 22:03                                       ` Qing Zhao
2021-08-16  7:12                                         ` Richard Biener
2021-08-16 14:48                                           ` Qing Zhao
2021-08-16 15:08                                             ` Richard Biener
2021-08-16 15:39                                               ` Qing Zhao
2021-08-16  7:11                                       ` Richard Biener
2021-08-16 16:48                                         ` Qing Zhao
2021-08-17 15:04                                           ` Qing Zhao
2021-08-17 20:40                                             ` Qing Zhao
2021-08-18  7:19                                               ` Richard Biener
2021-08-18 14:39                                                 ` Qing Zhao
2021-08-11  9:02                   ` Richard Sandiford
2021-08-11 13:44                     ` Qing Zhao
2021-08-11 16:15                       ` Richard Sandiford [this message]
2021-08-11 16:29                         ` Qing Zhao
2021-08-12 19:24   ` Qing Zhao
2021-08-12 22:45     ` Qing Zhao
2021-08-16  7:40     ` Richard Biener
2021-08-16 15:45       ` Qing Zhao
2021-08-17  8:29         ` Richard Biener
2021-08-17 14:50           ` Qing Zhao
2021-08-17 16:08             ` Qing Zhao
2021-08-18  7:15               ` Richard Biener
2021-08-18 16:02                 ` Qing Zhao
2021-08-19  9:00                   ` Richard Biener
2021-08-19 13:54                     ` Qing Zhao
2021-08-20 14:52                       ` Qing Zhao
2021-08-23 13:55                       ` Richard Biener
2021-09-02 17:24                         ` Qing Zhao
2021-08-16 19:49       ` Qing Zhao
2021-08-17  8:43         ` Richard Biener
2021-08-17 14:03           ` Qing Zhao
2021-08-17 14:45             ` Richard Biener
2021-08-17 14:53               ` Qing Zhao

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