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From: Richard Biener <rguenther@suse.de>
To: Tamar Christina <Tamar.Christina@arm.com>
Cc: Richard Sandiford <Richard.Sandiford@arm.com>,
	 Tamar Christina via Gcc-patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>,
	nd <nd@arm.com>,  Jeff Law <jeffreyalaw@gmail.com>
Subject: RE: [PATCH 1/2]middle-end: RFC: On expansion of conditional branches, give hint if argument is a truth type to backend
Date: Fri, 30 Sep 2022 10:16:45 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <nycvar.YFH.7.77.849.2209301011580.18337@jbgna.fhfr.qr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <VI1PR08MB5325C51519637B8DD5562049FF569@VI1PR08MB5325.eurprd08.prod.outlook.com>

On Fri, 30 Sep 2022, Tamar Christina wrote:

> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Richard Sandiford <richard.sandiford@arm.com>
> > Sent: Friday, September 30, 2022 9:49 AM
> > To: Tamar Christina <Tamar.Christina@arm.com>
> > Cc: Richard Biener <rguenther@suse.de>; Tamar Christina via Gcc-patches
> > <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>; nd <nd@arm.com>; Jeff Law
> > <jeffreyalaw@gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2]middle-end: RFC: On expansion of conditional
> > branches, give hint if argument is a truth type to backend
> > 
> > Tamar Christina <Tamar.Christina@arm.com> writes:
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> From: Richard Sandiford <richard.sandiford@arm.com>
> > >> Sent: Friday, September 30, 2022 9:29 AM
> > >> To: Tamar Christina <Tamar.Christina@arm.com>
> > >> Cc: Richard Biener <rguenther@suse.de>; Tamar Christina via
> > >> Gcc-patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>; nd <nd@arm.com>; Jeff Law
> > >> <jeffreyalaw@gmail.com>
> > >> Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2]middle-end: RFC: On expansion of conditional
> > >> branches, give hint if argument is a truth type to backend
> > >>
> > >> Tamar Christina <Tamar.Christina@arm.com> writes:
> > >> >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> >> From: Gcc-patches <gcc-patches-
> > >> >> bounces+tamar.christina=arm.com@gcc.gnu.org> On Behalf Of
> > Richard
> > >> >> Biener via Gcc-patches
> > >> >> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2022 12:09 PM
> > >> >> To: Tamar Christina via Gcc-patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>
> > >> >> Cc: Richard Sandiford <Richard.Sandiford@arm.com>; nd
> > <nd@arm.com>
> > >> >> Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2]middle-end: RFC: On expansion of
> > >> >> conditional branches, give hint if argument is a truth type to
> > >> >> backend
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > Am 29.09.2022 um 12:23 schrieb Tamar Christina via Gcc-patches
> > >> >> > <gcc-
> > >> >> patches@gcc.gnu.org>:
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> >> >> From: Richard Biener <rguenther@suse.de>
> > >> >> >> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2022 10:41 AM
> > >> >> >> To: Richard Sandiford <Richard.Sandiford@arm.com>
> > >> >> >> Cc: Jeff Law <jeffreyalaw@gmail.com>; Tamar Christina
> > >> >> >> <Tamar.Christina@arm.com>; gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org; nd
> > >> >> <nd@arm.com>
> > >> >> >> Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2]middle-end: RFC: On expansion of
> > >> >> >> conditional branches, give hint if argument is a truth type to
> > >> >> >> backend
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >>> On Thu, 29 Sep 2022, Richard Sandiford wrote:
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>> Jeff Law <jeffreyalaw@gmail.com> writes:
> > >> >> >>>> On 9/28/22 09:04, Richard Sandiford wrote:
> > >> >> >>>>> Tamar Christina <Tamar.Christina@arm.com> writes:
> > >> >> >>>>>>> Maybe the target could use (subreg:SI (reg:BI ...)) as
> > argument.
> > >> >> Heh.
> > >> >> >>>>>> But then I'd still need to change the expansion code. I
> > >> >> >>>>>> suppose this could prevent the issue with changes to code
> > >> >> >>>>>> on
> > >> other targets.
> > >> >> >>>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> We have undocumented addcc, negcc, etc. patterns,
> > should
> > >> we
> > >> >> >>>>>>>>> have aandcc
> > >> >> >>>>>> pattern for this indicating support for andcc + jump as
> > >> >> >>>>>> opposedto
> > >> >> >> cmpcc + jump?
> > >> >> >>>>>>>> This could work yeah. I didn't know these existed.
> > >> >> >>>>>>> Ah, so they are conditional add, not add setting CC, so
> > >> >> >>>>>>> andcc wouldn't be appropriate.
> > >> >> >>>>>>> So I'm not sure how we'd handle such situation - maybe
> > >> >> >>>>>>> looking at REG_DECL and recognizing a _Bool PARM_DECL is
> > OK?
> > >> >> >>>>>> I have a slight suspicion that Richard Sandiford would
> > >> >> >>>>>> likely reject this though..
> > >> >> >>>>> Good guess :-P  We shouldn't rely on something like that for
> > >> >> >> correctness.
> > >> >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>> Would it help if we promoted the test-and-branch
> > >> >> >>>>> instructions to optabs, alongside cbranch?  The jump
> > >> >> >>>>> expanders could then target it
> > >> >> >> directly.
> > >> >> >>>>>
> > >> >> >>>>> IMO that'd be a reasonable thing to do if it does help.
> > >> >> >>>>> It's a relatively common operation, especially on CISCy targets.
> > >> >> >>>>
> > >> >> >>>> But don't we represent these single bit tests using
> > >> >> >>>> zero_extract as the condition of the branch?  I guess if we
> > >> >> >>>> can generate them directly rather than waiting for combine to
> > >> >> >>>> deduce that we're dealing with a single bit test and
> > >> >> >>>> constructing the zero_extract form would be an improvement
> > >> >> >>>> and might help aarch at the same
> > >> time.
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>> Do you mean that the promote_mode stuff should use ext(z)v
> > >> >> >>> rather than zero_extend to promote a bool, where available?
> > >> >> >>> If so, I agree that might help.  But it sounds like it would
> > >> >> >>> have downsides
> > >> too.
> > >> >> >>> Currently a bool memory can be zero-extended on the fly using
> > >> >> >>> a load, but if we used the zero_extract form instead, we'd
> > >> >> >>> have to extract the bit after the load.  And (as an
> > >> >> >>> alternative) choosing different behaviour based on whether
> > >> >> >>> expand sees a REG or a MEM sounds like it could still cause
> > >> >> >>> problems, since REGs could be replaced by MEMs (or vice versa)
> > later in the RTL passes.
> > >> >> >>>
> > >> >> >>> ISTM that the original patch was inserting an extra operation
> > >> >> >>> in the branch expansion in order to target a specific instruction.
> > >> >> >>> Targeting the instruction in expand seems good, but IMO we
> > >> >> >>> should do it directly, based on knowledge of whether the
> > >> >> >>> instruction actually
> > >> >> exists.
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> Yes, I think a compare-and-branch pattern is the best fit here.
> > >> >> >> Note on GIMPLE we'd rely on the fact this is a BOOLEAN_TYPE (so
> > >> >> >> even 8 bit precision bools only have 1 and 0 as meaningful values).
> > >> >> >> So the 'compare-' bit in compare-and-branch would be
> > >> >> >> interpreting a BOOLEAN_TYPE, not so much a general compare.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Oh, I was thinking of adding a constant argument representing
> > >> >> > the precision that is relevant for the compare in order to make
> > >> >> > this a bit more
> > >> >> general/future proof.
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Are you thinking I should instead just make the optab implicitly
> > >> >> > only work for 1-bit precision comparisons?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> What?s the optab you propose (cite also the documentation part)?
> > >> >
> > >> > tbranchmode5
> > >> >   Conditional branch instruction combined with a bit test instruction.
> > >> Operand 0 is a comparison operator.
> > >> >   Operand 1 and Operand 2 are the first and second operands of the
> > >> comparison, respectively.
> > >> >   Operand 3 is the number of low-order bits that are relevant for
> > >> > the
> > >> comparison.
> > >> >   Operand 4 is the code_label to jump to.
> > >>
> > >> For the TB instructions (and for other similar instructions that I've
> > >> seen on other architectures) it would be more useful to have a
> > >> single-bit test, with operand 4 specifying the bit position.
> > >> Arguably it might then be better to have separate eq and ne optabs,
> > >> to avoid the awkward doubling of the operands (operand 1 contains
> > operands 2 and 3).
> > >>
> > >> I guess a more general way of achieving the same thing would be to
> > >> make operand 4 in the optab above a mask rather than a bit count.
> > >> But that might be overly general, if there are no known architectures
> > >> that have such an instruction.
> > >
> > > One of the reasons I wanted a range rather than a single bit is that I
> > > can the use this to generate cbz/cbnz early on as well.
> > 
> > We already have the opportunity to do that via cbranch<mode>4.
> > But at the moment aarch64.md always forces the separate comparison
> > instead.  (Not sure why TBH.  Does it enable more ifcvt opportunities?)
> > 
> > If we change the body of cbranch<mode>4 to:
> > 
> >   if ((GET_CODE (operands[0]) != EQ && GET_CODE (operands[0]) != NE)
> >       || operands[2] != const0_rtx)
> >     {
> >       operands[1] = aarch64_gen_compare_reg (GET_CODE (operands[0]),
> > 					     operands[1], operands[2]);
> >       operands[2] = const0_rtx;
> >     }
> > 
> > then we generate the cbz/cbnz directly.
> >
> 
> Ah ok, then if Richi agrees, bitpos it is then instead of bit count.

Somehow I understood that cbranch<>4 is already fully capable of the
optimization?

On your earlier proposal I'd have commented that if it wouldn't make
sense to instead have a CCmode setter instead of an expander with
a branch label?  That would be a bit test, like {sign,zero}_extract
compared against zero which can then be combined with a branch?

Of course if the ISA is really bit-test-and-branch then cbranch<>4
itself or a variant of it might be more useful.  Maybe
cbranchbi4 would be "abused" for this?

> Tamar
>  
> 
> > Thanks,
> > Richard
> > 
> > 
> > > This would mean we could use my earlier patch that tried to drop the
> > > QI/HI promotions without needing the any_extend additional pass if we
> > > wanted to.
> > >
> > > We'd also no longer need to rely on seeing a paradoxical subreg for a tst.
> > >
> > > Tamar.
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,
> > >> Richard
> > >>
> > >> > Specifically this representation would allow us to emit all our
> > >> > different conditional branching instructions without needing to
> > >> > rely on combine.  We have some cases that happen during
> > >> > optimization that sometimes prevent the optimal sequence from being
> > >> > generated. This
> > >> would also solve that as we would expand to what we want to start with.
> > >> >
> > >> > Tamar.
> > >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > Thanks,
> > >> >> > Tamar
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> >>
> > >> >> >> Richard.
> 

-- 
Richard Biener <rguenther@suse.de>
SUSE Software Solutions Germany GmbH, Frankenstrasse 146, 90461 Nuernberg,
Germany; GF: Ivo Totev, Andrew Myers, Andrew McDonald, Boudien Moerman;
HRB 36809 (AG Nuernberg)

  reply	other threads:[~2022-09-30 10:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-09-23  9:24 Tamar Christina
2022-09-23  9:25 ` [PATCH 2/2]AArch64 Extend tbz pattern to allow SI to SI extensions Tamar Christina
2022-09-23  9:42   ` Richard Sandiford
2022-09-23  9:48     ` Tamar Christina
2022-09-26 10:35 ` [PATCH 1/2]middle-end: RFC: On expansion of conditional branches, give hint if argument is a truth type to backend Richard Biener
2022-09-26 11:05   ` Tamar Christina
2022-09-26 11:32     ` Richard Biener
2022-09-26 11:46       ` Tamar Christina
2022-09-26 12:34         ` Richard Biener
2022-09-26 12:43           ` Richard Biener
2022-09-26 14:02             ` Tamar Christina
2022-09-28 15:04         ` Richard Sandiford
2022-09-28 17:23           ` Jeff Law
2022-09-29  9:37             ` Richard Sandiford
2022-09-29  9:40               ` Richard Biener
2022-09-29 10:21                 ` Tamar Christina
2022-09-29 11:09                   ` Richard Biener
2022-09-30  8:00                     ` Tamar Christina
2022-09-30  8:28                       ` Richard Sandiford
2022-09-30  8:38                         ` Tamar Christina
2022-09-30  8:48                           ` Richard Sandiford
2022-09-30  9:15                             ` Tamar Christina
2022-09-30 10:16                               ` Richard Biener [this message]
2022-09-30 11:11                                 ` Tamar Christina
2022-09-30 11:52                                   ` Richard Biener
2022-09-30 12:48                                     ` Tamar Christina
2022-09-30 14:28                                       ` Richard Sandiford
2022-09-30 14:33                                         ` Richard Biener
2022-09-29 20:49               ` Jeff Law
2022-10-27  3:22 ` Andrew Pinski

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