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From: Richard Biener <rguenther@suse.de>
To: Qing Zhao <qing.zhao@oracle.com>
Cc: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	 "joseph@codesourcery.com" <joseph@codesourcery.com>,
	 gcc Patches <gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>,
	 "siddhesh@gcc.gnu.org" <siddhesh@gcc.gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Add a new warning option -Wstrict-flex-arrays.
Date: Tue, 22 Nov 2022 08:16:56 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <nycvar.YFH.7.77.849.2211220812411.3995@jbgna.fhfr.qr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2AA33592-14D4-4E89-91F1-221F635117F1@oracle.com>

On Mon, 21 Nov 2022, Qing Zhao wrote:

> 
> 
> > On Nov 18, 2022, at 11:31 AM, Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> wrote:
> > 
> > On Fri, Nov 18, 2022 at 03:19:07PM +0000, Qing Zhao wrote:
> >> Hi, Richard,
> >> 
> >> Honestly, it?s very hard for me to decide what?s the best way to handle the interaction 
> >> between -fstrict-flex-array=M and -Warray-bounds=N. 
> >> 
> >> Ideally,  -fstrict-flex-array=M should completely control the behavior of -Warray-bounds.
> >> If possible, I prefer this solution.
> >> 
> >> However, -Warray-bounds is included in -Wall, and has been used extensively for a long time.
> >> It?s not safe to change its default behavior. 
> > 
> > I prefer that -fstrict-flex-arrays controls -Warray-bounds. That
> > it is in -Wall is _good_ for this reason. :) No one is going to add
> > -fstrict-flex-arrays (at any level) without understanding what it does
> > and wanting those effects on -Warray-bounds.
> 
> 
> The major difficulties to let -fstrict-flex-arrays controlling -Warray-bounds was discussed in the following threads:
> 
> https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc-patches/2022-October/604133.html
> 
> Please take a look at the discussion and let me know your opinion.

My opinion is now, after re-considering and with seeing your new 
patch, that -Warray-bounds=2 should be changed to only add
"the intermediate results of pointer arithmetic that may yield out of 
bounds values" and that what it considers a flex array should now
be controlled by -fstrict-flex-arrays only.

That is, I think, the only thing that's not confusing to users even
if that implies a change from previous behavior that we should
document by clarifying the -Warray-bounds documentation as well as
by adding an entry to the Caveats section of gcc-13/changes.html

That also means that =2 will get _less_ warnings with GCC 13 when
the user doesn't use -fstrict-flex-arrays as well.

Richard.

-- 
Richard Biener <rguenther@suse.de>
SUSE Software Solutions Germany GmbH, Frankenstrasse 146, 90461 Nuernberg,
Germany; GF: Ivo Totev, Andrew Myers, Andrew McDonald, Boudien Moerman;
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  reply	other threads:[~2022-11-22  8:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-11-08 14:51 [PATCH 0/2] Add a new warning option -Wstrict-flex-array Qing Zhao
2022-11-08 14:51 ` [PATCH 1/2] Change the name of array_at_struct_end_p to array_ref_flexible_size_p Qing Zhao
2022-11-09  7:57   ` Richard Biener
2022-11-09 15:50     ` Qing Zhao
2022-11-08 14:51 ` [PATCH 2/2] Add a new warning option -Wstrict-flex-arrays Qing Zhao
2022-11-15 15:41   ` Qing Zhao
2022-11-18 13:14   ` Richard Biener
2022-11-18 15:19     ` Qing Zhao
2022-11-18 16:31       ` Kees Cook
2022-11-21 15:02         ` Qing Zhao
2022-11-22  8:16           ` Richard Biener [this message]
2022-11-22 14:10             ` Qing Zhao
2022-11-22 15:02               ` Qing Zhao
2022-11-22 17:17                 ` Kees Cook
2022-11-24  6:45                   ` Richard Biener

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