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From: Richard Biener <rguenther@suse.de>
To: Richard Sandiford <richard.sandiford@arm.com>
Cc: Jiufu Guo <guojiufu@linux.ibm.com>,
	 Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>,
	gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org,  dje.gcc@gmail.com, linkw@gcc.gnu.org,
	bergner@linux.ibm.com,  jeffreyalaw@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] rs6000: replace '(const_int 0)' to 'unspec:BLK [(const_int 0)]' for stack_tie
Date: Wed, 14 Jun 2023 09:22:09 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <nycvar.YFH.7.77.849.2306140918210.4723@jbgna.fhfr.qr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <mptzg52ife3.fsf@arm.com>

On Wed, 14 Jun 2023, Richard Sandiford wrote:

> Richard Biener <rguenther@suse.de> writes:
> > AFAIU this special instruction is only supposed to prevent
> > code motion (of stack memory accesses?) across this instruction?
> > I'd say a
> >
> >   (may_clobber (mem:BLK (reg:DI 1 1)))
> >
> > might be more to the point?  I've used "may_clobber" which doesn't
> > exist since I'm not sure whether a clobber is considered a kill.
> > The docs say "Represents the storing or possible storing of an 
> > unpredictable..." - what is it? Storing or possible storing?
> 
> I'd also understood it to be either.  As in, it is a may-clobber
> that can be used for must-clobber.  Alternatively: the value stored
> is unpredictable, and can therefore be the same as the current value.
> 
> I think the main difference between:
> 
>   (clobber (mem:BLK ?))
> 
> and
> 
>   (set (mem:BLK ?) (unspec:BLK ?))
> 
> is that the latter must happen for correctness (unless something
> that understands the unspec proves otherwise) whereas a clobber
> can validly be dropped.  So for something like stack_tie, a set
> seems more correct than a clobber.

How can a clobber be validly dropped?  For the case of stack
memory if there's no stack use after it it could be elided
and I suppose the clobber itself can be moved.  But then
the function return is a stack use as well.

Btw, with the same reason the (set (mem:...)) could be removed, no?
Or is the (unspec:) SET_SRC having implicit side-effects that
prevents the removal (so rs6000 could have its stack_tie removed)?

That said, I fail to see how a clobber is special here.

Richard.

> Thanks,
> Richard
> 

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  reply	other threads:[~2023-06-14  9:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-06-13 12:23 Jiufu Guo
2023-06-13 12:48 ` Xi Ruoyao
2023-06-14  1:55   ` Jiufu Guo
2023-06-14  9:18     ` Xi Ruoyao
2023-06-14 15:05       ` Segher Boessenkool
2023-06-15  7:59         ` Jiufu Guo
2023-06-13 18:33 ` Segher Boessenkool
2023-06-14  4:06   ` Jiufu Guo
2023-06-14  7:59     ` Richard Biener
2023-06-14  9:04       ` Richard Sandiford
2023-06-14  9:22         ` Richard Biener [this message]
2023-06-14  9:43           ` Richard Sandiford
2023-06-14  9:52             ` Richard Biener
2023-06-14 10:02               ` Richard Sandiford
2023-06-14 16:08               ` Segher Boessenkool
2023-06-14 16:32           ` Segher Boessenkool
2023-06-14  9:29         ` Jiufu Guo
2023-06-14 16:38         ` Segher Boessenkool
2023-06-14  9:26       ` Jiufu Guo
2023-06-14 15:45         ` Segher Boessenkool
2023-06-14 15:38       ` Segher Boessenkool
2023-06-14 16:25         ` Richard Biener
2023-06-14 17:03           ` Segher Boessenkool
2023-06-14 15:15     ` Segher Boessenkool
2023-06-15  7:00       ` Jiufu Guo
2023-06-15 16:30         ` Segher Boessenkool
2023-06-16  2:24           ` Jiufu Guo
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2023-06-12 13:19 Jiufu Guo
2023-06-13  0:24 ` David Edelsohn
2023-06-13  2:15   ` Jiufu Guo
2023-06-13 18:14     ` Segher Boessenkool
2023-06-13 18:59       ` David Edelsohn
2023-06-14  3:00         ` Jiufu Guo

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