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From: Richard Biener <rguenther@suse.de>
To: Joseph Myers <joseph@codesourcery.com>
Cc: Martin Uecker <uecker@tugraz.at>, gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/4] c23: aliasing of compatible tagged types
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2023 10:47:32 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <nycvar.YFH.7.77.849.2311281043310.21409@jbgna.fhfr.qr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <47966764-3dd6-8499-a798-c497dab393d@codesourcery.com>

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On Tue, 28 Nov 2023, Joseph Myers wrote:

> On Sun, 26 Nov 2023, Martin Uecker wrote:
> 
> > My understand is that it is used for aliasing analysis and also
> > checking of conversions.  TYPE_CANONICAL must be consistent with
> > the idea the middle-end has about type conversions.  But as long
> > as we do not give the same TYPE_CANONICAL to types the middle-end
> > thinks must be incompatible using its own type checking machinery,
> > it should be safe even for types the C standard thinks must be
> > incompatible for some reason.
> 
> And presumably also for types that definitely can't be assigned because 
> they have incompatible layout through the use of different array sizes - 
> since the front end won't generate such assignments, it would never matter 
> whether the middle end considers them valid without conversion or not?

I guess so.  The middle-end considers an aggregate copy to have the
size of the LHS, so any mismatch there (in size) is the frontends
fault and will likely result in code generation with problems.

> > > I also think more rationale is needed for ignoring sizes like this.  Is it 
> > > intended for e.g. making structs with flexible array members 
> > > alias-compatible with similar structs with a fixed-size array?
> > 
> > The main reason are pointers to arrays:
> > 
> > struct foo { int (*x)[]; }
> > struct foo { int (*x)[2]; };
> > struct foo { int (*x)[1]; };
> 
> Thanks for the explanation.
> 
> I guess the cases involving flexible array members actually show up a bug 
> in the standard rather than any kind of issue with this patch - the 
> standard allows one structure ending with a flexible array member, and 
> another ending with a fixed-size array, to be compatible (and in different 
> translation units allowed that even before C23), but there is also clear 
> text in the standard showing it's not intended to require the layout to be 
> consistent (the fixed-size and flexible arrays might have different 
> offsets), and what you'd actually get with an assignment or conditional 
> expression mixing such structures certainly isn't clearly specified.  
> Maybe the right resolution for that issue with the standard would be to 
> make that particular case incompatible, but it would need to be raised as 
> an issue after C23 is out.

I think from a middle-end perspective it's desirable that accessing
either of the foo with size 2 and 1 through a pointer of the type
of the foo with unknown size is permissible from a TBAA view.  But
it's not clear to me that accessing the foo with array size 2 via
an lvalue of the type of foo with array size 1 is required to be
supported (from a TBAA view).

Richard.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2023-11-28 10:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-16 21:36 c23 type compatibility rules, v3 Martin Uecker
2023-11-16 21:38 ` [PATCH 1/4] c23: tag compatibility rules for struct and unions Martin Uecker
2023-11-23 23:17   ` Joseph Myers
2023-11-16 21:38 ` [PATCH 2/4] c23: tag compatibility rules for enums Martin Uecker
2023-11-23 23:26   ` Joseph Myers
2023-11-16 21:39 ` [PATCH 3/4] c23: aliasing of compatible tagged types Martin Uecker
2023-11-23 23:47   ` Joseph Myers
2023-11-26 22:48     ` Martin Uecker
2023-11-27  7:46       ` Richard Biener
2023-11-28  1:00       ` Joseph Myers
2023-11-28  6:49         ` Martin Uecker
2023-11-28 10:47         ` Richard Biener [this message]
2023-11-28 11:51           ` Martin Uecker
2023-11-16 21:40 ` [PATCH 4/4] c23: construct composite type for " Martin Uecker
2023-11-27 13:16 ` [V4] [C PATCH 1/4] c23: tag compatibility rules for struct and unions Martin Uecker
2023-12-14 20:53   ` Joseph Myers
2023-11-27 13:16 ` [V4] [PATCH 2/4] c23: tag compatibility rules for enums Martin Uecker
2023-12-14 20:58   ` Joseph Myers
2023-11-27 13:16 ` [V4] [PATCH 3/4] c23: aliasing of compatible tagged types Martin Uecker
2023-12-14 21:10   ` Joseph Myers
2023-11-27 13:16 ` [V4] [PATCH 4/4] c23: construct composite type for " Martin Uecker
2023-12-17 17:41 ` [V5] [C PATCH 1/4] c23: tag compatibility rules for struct and unions Martin Uecker
2023-12-19 21:48   ` Joseph Myers
2023-12-17 17:42 ` [V5] [C PATCH 2/4] c23: tag compatibility rules for enums Martin Uecker
2023-12-19 21:50   ` Joseph Myers
2023-12-17 17:42 ` [V5] [C PATCH 3/4] c23: aliasing of compatible tagged types Martin Uecker
2023-12-19 22:02   ` Joseph Myers
2023-12-17 17:42 ` [V5] [C PATCH 4/4] c23: construct composite type for " Martin Uecker
2023-12-19 22:25   ` Joseph Myers
2023-12-21 21:47 ` [V6] " Martin Uecker
2023-12-22 16:27   ` Joseph Myers
2023-12-27 19:23 ` [C PATCH] C: Fix type compatibility for structs with variable sized fields Martin Uecker
2023-12-29 15:57   ` Joseph Myers
2024-01-27 16:10 ` Fix ICE with -g and -std=c23 when forming composite types [PR113438] Martin Uecker
2024-01-29 20:27   ` Joseph Myers
2024-04-02 18:54 ` [C PATCH] Fix ICE with -g and -std=c23 related to incomplete types [PR114361] Martin Uecker
2024-04-02 20:31   ` Joseph Myers
2024-04-02 19:02 ` [C PATCH] fix aliasing for structures/unions with incomplete types Martin Uecker
2024-04-02 20:42   ` Joseph Myers
2024-04-02 21:22     ` Martin Uecker
2024-04-03 15:33       ` Joseph Myers
2024-04-14 12:30 ` [C PATCH, v2] Fix ICE with -g and -std=c23 related to incomplete types [PR114361] Martin Uecker
2024-04-14 12:38   ` Martin Uecker
2024-04-15  6:55   ` Richard Biener
2024-04-15  7:38     ` Jakub Jelinek
2024-04-15  7:59       ` Jakub Jelinek
2024-04-15  8:02         ` Richard Biener
2024-04-15  8:05           ` Jakub Jelinek
2024-04-15 10:48             ` [PATCH] c, v3: " Jakub Jelinek
2024-04-15 11:33               ` Richard Biener
2024-04-16  7:20                 ` Jakub Jelinek
2024-04-19 20:39               ` Joseph Myers
2024-04-15  7:03   ` [C PATCH, v2] " Jakub Jelinek
2024-05-18 13:27 ` [C PATCH] Fix for some variably modified types not being recognized [PR114831] Martin Uecker
2024-05-18 13:29   ` Martin Uecker
2024-05-20 21:18   ` Joseph Myers
2024-05-18 20:18 ` [C PATCH] Fix for redeclared enumerator initialized with different type [PR115109] Martin Uecker
2024-05-19 10:24   ` [C PATCH, v2] " Martin Uecker
2024-05-20 21:30     ` Joseph Myers
2024-05-21  5:40       ` Martin Uecker
2024-05-23 20:51         ` Joseph Myers
2024-05-21 12:18   ` [C PATCH]: allow aliasing of compatible types derived from enumeral types [PR115157] Martin Uecker
2024-05-23 20:59     ` Joseph Myers
2024-05-23 21:30       ` Ian Lance Taylor
2024-05-23 21:47         ` Martin Uecker
2024-05-23 21:53           ` Ian Lance Taylor
2024-05-24  5:56             ` Richard Biener

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