From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-yb1-xb31.google.com (mail-yb1-xb31.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::b31]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4675F3858CDA for ; Tue, 12 Dec 2023 01:43:18 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.4.2 sourceware.org 4675F3858CDA Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=pass (p=none dis=none) header.from=adacore.com Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=adacore.com ARC-Filter: OpenARC Filter v1.0.0 sourceware.org 4675F3858CDA Authentication-Results: server2.sourceware.org; arc=none smtp.remote-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::b31 ARC-Seal: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=sourceware.org; s=key; t=1702345401; cv=none; b=czxEb/9IffrcpJRuDtNZQTD5rxTu34wB+/5BbOCVxHj6b802+wf3dB3EuYnqrrVmt/I8ZAp8WFQkv+bwb+BdPF03om3qqKJhOmAl7f36j6PwbOz053CB9Zuba92sO96+MVGq90a3xmr63AMtOtk1DqUYeYG+pTPi3Yx3P7pdK/A= ARC-Message-Signature: i=1; a=rsa-sha256; d=sourceware.org; s=key; t=1702345401; c=relaxed/simple; bh=boucCpx7uz0kDwS2ed2a5nxDfXFdF9GPm/xax7V63Us=; h=DKIM-Signature:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version; b=PF59QriuO1dlgBDDuMCKspYTEb8MlqpgeHwCSQAiJg8x67qSyA8pOZz2qFbdrDL8HoWzNzb5ZfxYroCO9H5TSodMjifcrEDNNqdJYxzzVPVOWiYrmGJU1HNXq+gss6zNIDgAhidNYyB7I50z3aT8SRnpBvubA7VfYImnOvepJts= ARC-Authentication-Results: i=1; server2.sourceware.org Received: by mail-yb1-xb31.google.com with SMTP id 3f1490d57ef6-dbcaf854e5bso955083276.0 for ; Mon, 11 Dec 2023 17:43:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=adacore.com; s=google; t=1702345397; x=1702950197; darn=gcc.gnu.org; h=mime-version:user-agent:message-id:in-reply-to:date:references :organization:subject:cc:to:from:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=el3Ib+wCCNhR1GFooEKXMG+Znzgzx1CU4DwsfV8sVnc=; b=WSdhoelkWIEjBUFUJW/jQWlZSHkHdT+INxqW6yrvF8iaWmbJ1h0CvnJWFP88hg5Ef7 4NLEvKqX17dQ08BkTuyLf9eNeEceNi1zixSJih7u68QmnQoMTbHn3g2r12nehICDqdNG iE6h4VU/NeOCb6m3AIwIMX7BlGW5sFfKxQXutYzhEtn+YuPBMwyLNeOo1lNMoFB7b25N CsO/TGNoCt5GPTgVjQdOw0dMB51zxM0JlDM3fMjgYqat9IIZheQl/Hw2YQMg/06HzaEz F47wj1QojJbtXftab6ZhyesgD6drOAPXnpNj4t56/O0odf5e96ASGAtpiWogQXptRM8b 9CkA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1702345397; x=1702950197; h=mime-version:user-agent:message-id:in-reply-to:date:references :organization:subject:cc:to:from:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=el3Ib+wCCNhR1GFooEKXMG+Znzgzx1CU4DwsfV8sVnc=; b=X1+fZHNxuwrhRcxk7G+v4W68t56KDjvEa0ySSZk+pLNunK/Wz9X9R4gFY/fFKVWzMi E8XDmuMYYaV13Kmn4F1QVQi27J5ahAk5B21KIVnIxwdK6DsjayLCDkcEwXTz8sPRPMeg euFM/5unqeu3Q16zu08ORBj0A3nA3odO70rnONIhPxmku/jeCPjlsV9bwy9zyG6J9xMe B46BLheTo+nfzUU8CzhKr+ck//23ydpXUV7NNuPpyeCHGiIEEE9lolFAMfIxtqjuUiSC y6jXanYPfS9QorMwd65V6RT/xeXR/05RHtJ1dwOYm3p5Gd+2VyziIOL5iihGV8hEsOs5 NQYw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YyCSFUaEIU7OZh0NgSsXXrtj9+XhYlMU9OfumDsoCdIK5UNscrP ZJh7etYrTA8+1GmoV/3I1BP9hQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IGcVLdbPgSR6cUYSlTZ1gpUDUeDv6Eqw+C6cwdQhpQGBq+4jZ/t1K+i3lxNOHuYARMjlSS/xA== X-Received: by 2002:a25:cacb:0:b0:dbc:4eb1:702a with SMTP id a194-20020a25cacb000000b00dbc4eb1702amr3584980ybg.71.1702345397634; Mon, 11 Dec 2023 17:43:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from free.home ([2804:14c:4d1:44a5:f4d9:b7a4:4fb8:376f]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 12-20020a17090a01cc00b002850eb8b6dcsm8407399pjd.44.2023.12.11.17.43.16 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Mon, 11 Dec 2023 17:43:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from livre (livre.home [172.31.160.2]) by free.home (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 3BC1h4m4397047 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT); Mon, 11 Dec 2023 22:43:08 -0300 From: Alexandre Oliva To: Sam James Cc: Richard Biener , gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org Subject: Re: Introduce -finline-stringops Organization: Free thinker, does not speak for AdaCore References: <87fs08tw9q.fsf@gentoo.org> Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2023 22:42:58 -0300 In-Reply-To: <87fs08tw9q.fsf@gentoo.org> (Sam James's message of "Mon, 11 Dec 2023 18:43:26 +0000") Message-ID: User-Agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/27.1 (gnu/linux) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain X-Scanned-By: MIMEDefang 2.84 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED,DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,DKIM_VALID_EF,KAM_SHORT,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE,SPF_HELO_NONE,SPF_PASS,TXREP,T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE,WEIRD_QUOTING autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.6 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.6 (2021-04-09) on server2.sourceware.org List-Id: On Dec 11, 2023, Sam James wrote: > Alexandre Oliva via Gcc-patches writes: >> On Jun 2, 2023, Alexandre Oliva wrote: >> >>> Introduce -finline-stringops >> >> Ping? https://gcc.gnu.org/pipermail/gcc-patches/2023-June/620472.html > Should the docs for the x86-specific -minline-all-stringops refer to > the new -finline-stringops? I wouldn't oppose it, but I find it might be somewhat misleading. -minline-all-stringops seems to be presented as an optimization option, because on x86 that's viable, whereas on some targets -finline-stringops will often generate horribly inefficient code just to avoid some dependencies on libc. Now, it's undeniable that there is a connection between them, in terms of offered functionality if not in goal and framing/presentation. -- Alexandre Oliva, happy hacker https://FSFLA.org/blogs/lxo/ Free Software Activist GNU Toolchain Engineer More tolerance and less prejudice are key for inclusion and diversity Excluding neuro-others for not behaving ""normal"" is *not* inclusive