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From: Alexandre Oliva <oliva@adacore.com>
To: Thomas Schwinge <thomas@codesourcery.com>
Cc: Tobias Burnus <tobias@codesourcery.com>,
	Richard Biener <richard.guenther@gmail.com>,
	<gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org>,
	Jeremy Bennett <jeremy.bennett@embecosm.com>,
	Craig Blackmore <craig.blackmore@embecosm.com>,
	Graham Markall <graham.markall@embecosm.com>,
	Martin Jambor <mjambor@suse.cz>, "Jan Hubicka" <hubicka@ucw.cz>,
	Jim Wilson <wilson@tuliptree.org>,
	Jeff Law <jeffreyalaw@gmail.com>,
	Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>, Tom de Vries <tdevries@suse.de>
Subject: Re: Causes to nvptx bootstrap fail: [PATCH v5] Introduce strub: machine-independent stack scrubbing
Date: Wed, 06 Dec 2023 19:12:25 -0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ory1e7c75i.fsf@lxoliva.fsfla.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87lea7sh0h.fsf@euler.schwinge.homeip.net> (Thomas Schwinge's message of "Wed, 6 Dec 2023 12:32:46 +0100")

On Dec  6, 2023, Thomas Schwinge <thomas@codesourcery.com> wrote:

> As I understand things, this cannot be implemented (at the call site) for
> nvptx, given that the callee's stack is not visible there: PTX is unusual
> in that the concept of a "standard" stack isn't exposed.

Not even when one PTX function calls another?  Interesting.  I'd hoped
that with control over entering and leaving strub contexts, one could
(manually) ensure they'd run in the same execution domain.  But if not
even that is possible, it will render the current strub implementation
entirely unusable for this target indeed.

Now, it doesn't seem to me that the build errors being experienced have
to do with that, but rather with lack of or incomplete support for
__builtin_{frame,stack}_address().  Are those errors expected when using
these builtins on this target?  I'd have expected them to compile, even
if something went wrong at runtime.


> Instead of allowing "strub" pieces that can be implemented, should this
> whole machinery generally be disabled (forced '-fstrub=disable', or via a
> new target hook?)?  The libgcc functions should then not get defined
> (thus, linker error upon accidental use), or should just '__builtin_trap'
> if that makes more sense?  Need an effective-target for the test cases.

> Alternatively, we may also leave the generic middle end handling alive,
> and 'sorry' (or similar) in the nvptx back end, as necessary?

Disabling the runtime bits is easy, once we determine what condition we
wish to test for.  I suppose testing for target support in the compiler,
issuing a 'sorry' in case the feature is required, would provide
something for libgcc configure and testsuite effective-target to test
for and decide whether to enable runtime support and run the tests.

-- 
Alexandre Oliva, happy hacker            https://FSFLA.org/blogs/lxo/
   Free Software Activist                   GNU Toolchain Engineer
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  reply	other threads:[~2023-12-06 22:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <ormtqpsbuc.fsf@lxoliva.fsfla.org>
2021-09-09  7:11 ` [PATCH] " Alexandre Oliva
2022-07-29  6:16   ` [PATCH v2 00/10] Introduce " Alexandre Oliva
2022-07-29  6:24     ` [PATCH v2 01/10] Introduce strub: documentation, and new command-line options Alexandre Oliva
2022-07-29  6:25     ` [PATCH v2 02/10] Introduce strub: torture tests for C and C++ Alexandre Oliva
2022-08-09 13:34       ` Alexandre Oliva
2022-07-29  6:25     ` [PATCH v2 03/10] Introduce strub: non-torture " Alexandre Oliva
2022-07-29  6:26     ` [PATCH v2 04/10] Introduce strub: tests for C++ and Ada Alexandre Oliva
2022-07-29  6:26     ` [PATCH v2 05/10] Introduce strub: builtins and runtime Alexandre Oliva
2022-07-29  6:27     ` [PATCH v2 06/10] Introduce strub: attributes Alexandre Oliva
2022-07-29  6:28     ` [PATCH v2 07/10] Introduce strub: infrastructure interfaces and adjustments Alexandre Oliva
2022-07-29  6:28     ` [PATCH v2 08/10] Introduce strub: strub modes Alexandre Oliva
2022-07-29  6:30     ` [PATCH v2 09/10] Introduce strub: strubm (mode assignment) pass Alexandre Oliva
2022-07-29  6:34     ` [PATCH v2 10/10] Introduce strub: strub pass Alexandre Oliva
2022-07-29  6:36     ` [PATCH v2 00/10] Introduce strub: machine-independent stack scrubbing Alexandre Oliva
2022-10-10  8:48       ` Richard Biener
2022-10-11 11:57         ` Alexandre Oliva
2022-10-11 11:59           ` Richard Biener
2022-10-11 13:33             ` Alexandre Oliva
2022-10-13 11:38               ` Richard Biener
2022-10-13 13:15                 ` Alexandre Oliva
2023-06-16  6:09     ` [PATCH v3] " Alexandre Oliva
2023-06-27 21:28       ` Qing Zhao
2023-06-28  8:20         ` Alexandre Oliva
2023-10-20  6:03       ` [PATCH v4] " Alexandre Oliva
2023-10-26  6:15         ` Alexandre Oliva
2023-11-20 12:40           ` Alexandre Oliva
2023-11-22 14:14             ` Richard Biener
2023-11-23 10:56               ` Alexandre Oliva
2023-11-23 12:05                 ` Richard Biener
2023-11-29  8:53                   ` Alexandre Oliva
2023-11-29 12:48                     ` Richard Biener
2023-11-30  4:13                       ` Alexandre Oliva
2023-11-30 12:00                         ` Richard Biener
2023-12-02 17:56                           ` [PATCH v5] " Alexandre Oliva
2023-12-05  6:25                             ` Alexandre Oliva
2023-12-06  1:04                               ` Alexandre Oliva
2023-12-05  9:01                             ` Richard Biener
2023-12-06  8:36                             ` Causes to nvptx bootstrap fail: " Tobias Burnus
2023-12-06 11:32                               ` Thomas Schwinge
2023-12-06 22:12                                 ` Alexandre Oliva [this message]
2023-12-07  3:33                                   ` [PATCH] strub: enable conditional support Alexandre Oliva
2023-12-07  7:24                                     ` Richard Biener
2023-12-07 16:44                                     ` Thomas Schwinge
2023-12-07 17:52                                       ` [PATCH] Alexandre Oliva
2023-12-08  6:46                                         ` [PATCH] Richard Biener
2023-12-08  9:33                                         ` [PATCH] strub: skip emutls after strubm errors Thomas Schwinge
2023-12-10  9:16                                           ` FX Coudert
2023-12-07  7:21                                   ` Causes to nvptx bootstrap fail: [PATCH v5] Introduce strub: machine-independent stack scrubbing Richard Biener
2023-12-06 10:22                             ` Jan Hubicka
2023-12-07 21:19                               ` Alexandre Oliva
2023-12-07 21:39                               ` Alexandre Oliva
2023-12-09  2:08                                 ` [PATCH] strub: add note on attribute access Alexandre Oliva
2023-12-11  7:26                                   ` Richard Biener
2023-12-12 14:21                                   ` Jan Hubicka
2023-12-11  8:40                             ` [PATCH] testsuite: Disable -fstack-protector* for some strub tests Jakub Jelinek
2023-12-11  8:59                               ` Richard Biener
2023-12-20  8:15                           ` [PATCH FYI] www: new AdaCore-contributed hardening features in gcc 13 and 14 Alexandre Oliva
2023-11-30  5:04                       ` [PATCH v4] Introduce strub: machine-independent stack scrubbing Alexandre Oliva
2023-11-30 11:56                         ` Richard Biener

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