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From: Martin Jambor <mjambor@suse.cz>
To: Qing Zhao <qing.zhao@oracle.com>,
	Richard Biener <richard.guenther@gmail.com>
Cc: gcc-patches@gcc.gnu.org, "Martin Liška" <mliska@suse.cz>,
	live-patching@vger.kernel.org, "Jan Hubicka" <hubicka@ucw.cz>
Subject: Re: GCC options for kernel live-patching (Was: Add a new option to control inlining only on static functions)
Date: Wed, 03 Oct 2018 10:53:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ri68t3ftjs7.fsf@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2CB8EC20-9D88-4EAA-820A-71C52B71419D@oracle.com>

Hi,

On Tue, Oct 02 2018, Qing Zhao wrote:
> So, here comes the next question:
>
> what will be the better approach for helping live-patching?
>
> A. disable all the optimization/analyzes that changing a function based on other functions.  this includes most of 
> the IPA optimizations, inlining, cloning, ipa side effect analysis, etc.

We came to the conclusion that we do not want to disable (any) inlining
- primarily for performance reasons but also because of always_inline.
When you have to deal with inlining, you can use the same mechanism for
IPA-CP clones, IPA-SRA and anything that creates clones and callers need
to be patched.

Always_inline is also the reason why I would discourage anyone from
attempting this, it looks too much like an irresolvable conflict.

>
> B. enable all such optimizations, but compute the list of possibly affected functions from those IPA optimizations.

Although certainly possible, we came to the conclusion that it would be
impractical to attempt to track all decisions affected by, say, a
function being pure, or a variable read-only, etc.  Impractical to the
point when at least I personally would also discourage anyone from
attempting this too, it would be necessary to record this info deep
inside AA, VRP, who know what else, and keep it up to date.

>
> C. enable part of them and disable the other part of them.  for the part of enabled ones,  compute the list of possibly affected functions
> from them.

Which means we would like to go this route.

Martin

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-10-03 10:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 124+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-18 18:58 [PATCH][Middle-end][Version 3]Add a new option to control inlining only on static functions Qing Zhao
2018-09-18 23:18 ` Martin Sebor
2018-09-19 15:07   ` Qing Zhao
2018-09-21 15:19     ` [PATCH][Middle-end][Version 4]Add " Qing Zhao
2018-09-26  1:01       ` PING: " Qing Zhao
2018-09-26 11:20       ` Alexander Monakov
2018-09-26 12:49         ` Paolo Carlini
2018-09-26 14:43         ` Qing Zhao
2018-09-26 15:18           ` Alexander Monakov
2018-09-26 23:07             ` Qing Zhao
2018-09-26 23:54               ` Alexander Monakov
2018-09-27  5:16                 ` Qing Zhao
2018-09-27  7:46                   ` Richard Biener
2018-09-27 16:30                     ` Qing Zhao
2018-09-27  8:55                   ` Alexander Monakov
2018-09-27  8:58                 ` Jan Hubicka
2018-09-27 11:12                   ` Richard Biener
2018-09-26 13:24       ` Jason Merrill
2018-09-26 13:31         ` Richard Biener
2018-09-26 13:40           ` Jason Merrill
2018-09-26 14:46             ` Jeff Law
2018-09-26 14:58               ` Jason Merrill
2018-09-26 15:10                 ` Jan Hubicka
2018-09-26 17:12                   ` Qing Zhao
2018-09-26 17:22                     ` Jan Hubicka
2018-09-26 21:36                       ` Qing Zhao
2018-09-27  9:47                         ` Jan Hubicka
2018-09-27 12:29                           ` GCC options for kernel live-patching (Was: Add a new option to control inlining only on static functions) Martin Jambor
2018-09-27 16:40                             ` Qing Zhao
2018-10-01 17:14                             ` Qing Zhao
2018-10-02  8:38                               ` Martin Jambor
2018-10-02 14:00                                 ` Qing Zhao
2018-10-02 14:11                                   ` Martin Liška
2018-10-02 14:55                                     ` Qing Zhao
2018-10-02 14:59                                       ` Martin Liška
2018-10-02 15:24                                         ` Qing Zhao
2018-10-02 17:16                                           ` Martin Liška
2018-10-02 18:34                                             ` Richard Biener
2018-10-02 21:25                                               ` Qing Zhao
2018-10-03  9:05                                                 ` Martin Liška
2018-10-03 10:53                                                 ` Martin Jambor [this message]
2018-10-03 16:11                                                   ` Qing Zhao
2018-10-04 13:20                                                     ` Richard Biener
2018-10-18 19:36                                                       ` [RFC] GCC support for live-patching Qing Zhao
2018-10-19  8:53                                                         ` Bernhard Reutner-Fischer
2018-10-19 18:33                                                           ` Qing Zhao
2018-10-24 21:16                                                             ` Alexandre Oliva
2018-10-19 14:25                                                         ` Andi Kleen
2018-10-19 18:33                                                           ` Qing Zhao
2018-10-20  6:47                                                             ` Andi Kleen
2018-10-22 13:07                                                         ` Martin Jambor
2018-10-22 17:59                                                           ` Qing Zhao
2018-10-22 15:36                                                         ` Miroslav Benes
2018-10-22 21:01                                                           ` Qing Zhao
2018-10-23  9:37                                                             ` Miroslav Benes
2018-10-23 19:54                                                               ` Qing Zhao
2018-10-24 13:17                                                                 ` Miroslav Benes
2018-10-23 13:37                                                             ` Nicolai Stange
2018-10-23 20:34                                                               ` Qing Zhao
2018-10-23 21:18                                                                 ` Nicolai Stange
2018-10-24 17:19                                                                 ` Qing Zhao
2018-10-31 22:04                                                         ` [RFC] [2nd version] " Qing Zhao
2018-10-31 22:08                                                         ` [RFC] " Qing Zhao
2018-10-03  9:23                                             ` GCC options for kernel live-patching (Was: Add a new option to control inlining only on static functions) Jan Hubicka
2018-10-03 11:27                                               ` Martin Liška
2018-10-22 10:49                                                 ` Martin Liška
     [not found]                                                   ` <20181105095135.j3mnzox6rkktkoto@kam.mff.cuni.cz>
2018-11-05 22:26                                                     ` Qing Zhao
2018-11-07 14:22                                                     ` Martin Liška
2018-11-07 14:27                                                       ` Jan Hubicka
2018-11-07 14:44                                                         ` Martin Liška
2018-11-08 14:59                                                       ` Jan Hubicka
2018-11-09 15:33                                                         ` [PATCH][RFC] Come up with -flive-patching master option Martin Liška
2018-11-09 17:43                                                           ` Qing Zhao
2018-11-10  8:51                                                             ` Martin Liška
2018-11-12  2:28                                                               ` Qing Zhao
2018-11-12  8:53                                                                 ` Martin Liška
2018-11-12 22:29                                                                   ` Qing Zhao
2018-11-13 17:49                                                                     ` Qing Zhao
2018-11-13 19:18                                                                       ` Miroslav Benes
2018-11-13 21:16                                                                         ` Qing Zhao
2018-11-14 15:03                                                                           ` Martin Liška
2018-11-14 17:54                                                                             ` Qing Zhao
2018-11-15  8:41                                                                               ` Martin Liška
2018-11-15 15:41                                                                                 ` Qing Zhao
2018-11-16  1:36                                                                                   ` [PATCH]Come " Qing Zhao
2018-11-16 15:26                                                                                     ` Martin Liška
2018-11-16 15:51                                                                                       ` Jan Hubicka
2018-11-16 16:25                                                                                         ` Qing Zhao
2018-11-16 16:05                                                                                       ` Qing Zhao
2018-11-19  8:12                                                                                         ` Martin Liška
     [not found]                                                                                           ` <F78B52B9-9F9A-4FA0-91BF-A33307D87AA8@oracle.c! ! om>
2018-11-19 15:53                                                                                           ` Qing Zhao
2018-11-20 12:10                                                                                             ` Martin Liška
2018-11-20 15:32                                                                                               ` [PATCH][Version 3]Come " Qing Zhao
2018-11-26 15:54                                                                                                 ` PING: " Qing Zhao
2018-11-30 17:04                                                                                                   ` [wwwdocs] [PATCH]introduce new -flive-patching master option into gcc9 Qing Zhao
2018-11-30 18:29                                                                                                     ` Jeff Law
2018-11-30 20:44                                                                                                       ` Qing Zhao
2018-11-28 15:52                                                                                                 ` [PATCH][Version 3]Come up with -flive-patching master option Jan Hubicka
2018-11-28 20:25                                                                                                   ` Qing Zhao
2018-11-29 16:16                                                                                                     ` Qing Zhao
2018-12-05 23:16                                                                                                     ` Question on Disable no throw for " Qing Zhao
2019-01-02 11:47                                                                                                       ` Martin Liška
2019-01-09 11:28                                                                                                         ` Martin Liška
2018-12-07 13:07                                                                                                     ` [PATCH][Version 3]Come up with " Rainer Orth
2018-12-07 15:14                                                                                                       ` Qing Zhao
2019-04-10 14:46                                                                                                 ` Jonathan Wakely
2019-04-10 19:24                                                                                                   ` Qing Zhao
2019-04-10 20:01                                                                                                     ` Jonathan Wakely
2019-04-11  8:11                                                                                                       ` Richard Biener
2018-11-14 22:05                                                                           ` [PATCH][RFC] Come " Miroslav Benes
     [not found]                                                               ` <20181110170343.g3k7j7rlydid3ahr@kam.mff.cuni.cz>
2018-11-12  9:29                                                                 ` Martin Liška
2018-11-09 18:38                                                           ` Bernhard Reutner-Fischer
2018-11-10  8:48                                                           ` Martin Liška
2018-10-03 12:18                                               ` GCC options for kernel live-patching (Was: Add a new option to control inlining only on static functions) Martin Jambor
2018-10-03 16:00                                               ` Qing Zhao
2018-10-23 12:34                             ` Performance impact of disabling non-clone IPA optimizations for the Linux kernel (was: "GCC options for kernel live-patching") Nicolai Stange
2018-10-24 14:30                               ` Jiri Kosina
2018-10-24 14:44                                 ` Miroslav Benes
2018-09-27 16:32                           ` [PATCH][Middle-end][Version 4]Add a new option to control inlining only on static functions Qing Zhao
2018-09-26 22:42                       ` Qing Zhao
2018-09-26 16:02               ` Qing Zhao
2018-09-26 15:52           ` Qing Zhao
2018-09-26 16:02             ` Jan Hubicka
2018-09-26 18:51               ` Qing Zhao

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