From: Thomas Koenig <tkoenig@netcologne.de>
To: Michael Meissner <meissner@linux.ibm.com>,
Jakub Jelinek <jakub@redhat.com>,
fortran@gcc.gnu.org, gcc@gcc.gnu.org,
Tobias Burnus <tobias@codesourcery.com>,
Segher Boessenkool <segher@kernel.crashing.org>,
David Edelsohn <dje.gcc@gmail.com>,
Peter Bergner <bergner@linux.ibm.com>,
Bill Schmidt <wschmidt@linux.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: libgfortran.so SONAME and powerpc64le-linux ABI changes (2nd patch)
Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2021 11:30:29 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <00657799-e00e-dcf7-acd1-f07da196e767@netcologne.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <YXyO5SMV1FhlnfaB@toto.the-meissners.org>
Hi Michael,
> It adds target hooks so the back end can overwrite the kind number for types.
> I made the IBM long double type use KIND=15 instead of KIND=16, and Float128
> uses KIND=16 as we've discussed. The tests for long double are still
> failing, so I suspect we will need some way of signalling about the long double
> which uses a funky kind (king=15).
There is still no conclusion how to deal with the two 16-bit types. I
have also asked on the J3 mailing list, and received a few different
opinions and options as well.
We can:
- Support KIND=16 == IEEE_QP only in the compiler, and supply a CONVERT
option from IBM_QP to IEEE_QP only. People who would need the old
format (why anybody would do that, I have no idea, but some may)
would have to use the old compiler.
- Support KIND=16 == IEEE_QP and KIND=15 = IBM_QP in the compiler, and
implement SELECTED_REAL_KIND according to the Fortran standard. This
would mean that people who put in a precision of 20 digits as a
shorthand for REAL(KIND=16) will get the old version. This will
lead to endless confusion, and penalize people who used
SELECTED_REAL_KIND, so it should be avoided.
- Support KIND=16 == IEEE_QP and KIND=15 = IBM_QP in the compiler, and
have SELECTED_REAL_KIND return 16 for anything above double precision.
This would actually violate the Fortran standard, and has been
generally viewed by J3 as not a good idea. It would, however, work
well for most users. Those who actually need IBM_QP would have to
specify it specifically.
- Have a compiler switch which selects between IEEE_QP and IBM_QP.
This was a suggestion by Steve Lionel formerly of DEC and Intel,
and they did that when they had a few floating point formats on
the Alpha to choose from. We would then have to specially annotate
the KIND=16 library routines, and also maybe indicate the different
argument types in module files. Anything else would be user error.
They also had the CONVERT options to go with it.
Question: Which option would we want to pursue? I actually think the
fourth one (the suggestion by Steve Lionel) is the best one.
Other opinions?
Best regards
Thomas
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2021-10-30 9:30 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-10-04 10:07 libgfortran.so SONAME and powerpc64le-linux ABI changes Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-04 11:24 ` Richard Biener
2021-10-04 11:36 ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-04 12:31 ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-04 14:14 ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-04 16:47 ` Joseph Myers
2021-10-04 18:33 ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-04 19:24 ` Joseph Myers
2021-10-05 17:43 ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-14 19:39 ` Bill Schmidt
2021-10-15 0:26 ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-05 20:16 ` Thomas Koenig
2021-10-05 21:54 ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-06 6:59 ` Thomas Koenig
2021-10-06 15:17 ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-06 15:41 ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-06 16:07 ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-06 16:34 ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-06 16:59 ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-06 17:07 ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-06 17:50 ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-06 19:30 ` Peter Bergner
2021-10-06 17:13 ` Joseph Myers
2021-10-06 18:39 ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-06 19:42 ` Joseph Myers
2021-10-06 20:57 ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-06 21:55 ` Joseph Myers
2021-10-06 22:03 ` Joseph Myers
2021-10-08 17:53 ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-11 20:11 ` Joseph Myers
2021-10-15 0:16 ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-06 15:42 ` David Edelsohn
2021-10-06 16:19 ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-06 17:38 ` David Edelsohn
2021-10-07 3:42 ` Michael Meissner
2021-10-08 21:10 ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-07 9:48 ` Alastair McKinstry
2021-10-07 9:56 ` Andreas Schwab
2021-10-07 10:01 ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-07 12:43 ` Alastair McKinstry
2021-10-05 21:53 ` Jonathan Wakely
2021-10-07 3:35 ` Michael Meissner
2021-10-07 6:08 ` Thomas Koenig
2021-10-07 9:40 ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-07 15:24 ` Michael Meissner
2021-10-07 15:33 ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-08 6:35 ` Thomas Koenig
2021-10-08 7:20 ` Iain Sandoe
2021-10-08 16:26 ` Thomas Koenig
2021-10-08 19:11 ` Iain Sandoe
2021-10-08 22:55 ` Thomas Koenig
2021-10-08 23:18 ` Iain Sandoe
2021-10-09 9:11 ` Thomas Koenig
2021-10-09 9:19 ` Iain Sandoe
2021-10-09 9:25 ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-09 7:44 ` Andreas Schwab
2021-10-10 16:14 ` Florian Weimer
2021-10-15 13:50 ` Bill Schmidt
2021-10-15 14:20 ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-15 18:05 ` Thomas Koenig
2021-10-15 18:11 ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-15 18:58 ` Thomas Koenig
2021-10-15 22:24 ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-15 22:36 ` Segher Boessenkool
2021-10-18 19:02 ` Joseph Myers
2021-10-28 3:10 ` Michael Meissner
2021-10-29 3:36 ` libgfortran.so SONAME and powerpc64le-linux ABI changes (work in progress patches) Michael Meissner
2021-10-29 19:07 ` Thomas Koenig
2021-10-29 21:06 ` Michael Meissner
2021-11-01 15:56 ` Bill Schmidt
2021-11-02 15:40 ` Michael Meissner
2021-10-30 0:16 ` libgfortran.so SONAME and powerpc64le-linux ABI changes (2nd patch) Michael Meissner
2021-10-30 9:30 ` Thomas Koenig [this message]
2021-10-30 10:03 ` Jakub Jelinek
2021-10-30 10:31 ` Thomas Koenig
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