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* Re: "Dead" Ports (was: m68k MacOS target support?)
@ 2000-09-13 10:25 Richard Kenner
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Richard Kenner @ 2000-09-13 10:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: bernds; +Cc: gcc

    I'm not necessarily requesting we add these to the "nuke immediately"
    list, but does anyone know whether romp/a29k/we32k/clipper/elxsi are
    likely to be in use?

Well, one of my primary machines (not used for software development, though)
is a ROMP.  And I think there are still plenty of pieces of equipment out
there that use the AMD 29k.

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* Re: "Dead" Ports (was: m68k MacOS target support?)
  2000-09-13  9:33     ` Bernd Schmidt
@ 2000-09-13 11:40       ` Stan Shebs
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Stan Shebs @ 2000-09-13 11:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Bernd Schmidt; +Cc: gcc

Bernd Schmidt wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Jeffrey A Law wrote:
> >
> > Other opinions?
> 
> I'm not necessarily requesting we add these to the "nuke immediately" list,
> but does anyone know whether romp/a29k/we32k/clipper/elxsi are likely to be
> in use?  It also seems like these haven't been changed in any serious way
> for a long time either.

Kenner's examples show why it's important to do research on a target
and to move slowly on evaporating configurations.  If a GCC config ever
worked at one time, it's quite likely it still has users, unless
all copies of the hardware have disappeared.  I researched a couple
obscure configs for GDB (such as CX/UX), thinking they were dead, and
turned up whole web sites, including release notes for modified versions
of GNU tools, etc.  By contrast, I was able to prove the Gould's demise
by finding a site that was an epitaph for the last one - and the site
described how that machine had been kept alive for several years by
cannibalizing the second-to-last Gould.

Stan

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* Re: "Dead" Ports (was: m68k MacOS target support?)
  2000-09-13  9:26   ` Jeffrey A Law
  2000-09-13  9:33     ` Bernd Schmidt
@ 2000-09-13  9:57     ` Bruce Korb
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Bruce Korb @ 2000-09-13  9:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: law
  Cc: Gerald Pfeifer, Richard Henderson, Stan Shebs, Joe Buck,
	Mark Mitchell, gcc

Jeffrey A Law wrote:
> Other opinions?

How about other cruft?  The include fixes are also
monotonically increasing in size, too.  Surely
*some* of the fixes are obsolete.  :-)
It would be trivial to hack up a version that would
report the fixes that made a difference somewhere.
What would be hard is deciding how to ensure the
hacked version was exercised on the relevant, active
platforms.  Probably not today....

 - Bruce

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* Re: "Dead" Ports (was: m68k MacOS target support?)
  2000-09-13  9:26   ` Jeffrey A Law
@ 2000-09-13  9:33     ` Bernd Schmidt
  2000-09-13 11:40       ` Stan Shebs
  2000-09-13  9:57     ` Bruce Korb
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Bernd Schmidt @ 2000-09-13  9:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Jeffrey A Law
  Cc: Gerald Pfeifer, Richard Henderson, Stan Shebs, Joe Buck,
	Mark Mitchell, gcc

On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Jeffrey A Law wrote:
> 
> Other opinions?

I'm not necessarily requesting we add these to the "nuke immediately" list,
but does anyone know whether romp/a29k/we32k/clipper/elxsi are likely to be
in use?  It also seems like these haven't been changed in any serious way
for a long time either.


Bernd

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* Re: "Dead" Ports (was: m68k MacOS target support?)
  2000-09-12 22:44 ` "Dead" Ports (was: m68k MacOS target support?) Gerald Pfeifer
@ 2000-09-13  9:26   ` Jeffrey A Law
  2000-09-13  9:33     ` Bernd Schmidt
  2000-09-13  9:57     ` Bruce Korb
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 6+ messages in thread
From: Jeffrey A Law @ 2000-09-13  9:26 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Gerald Pfeifer
  Cc: Richard Henderson, Stan Shebs, Joe Buck, Mark Mitchell, gcc

  In message <Pine.BSF.4.21.0009130740070.67582-100000@taygeta.dbai.tuwien.ac.a
t>you write:
  > On Tue, 12 Sep 2000, Richard Henderson wrote:
  > > Personally, I think we ought to immediately nuke all the ports that
  > > were never updated from gcc 1.x, and that have been commented out in
  > > the configure file since gcc 2.0.
  > > 
  > > Namely: fx80, ns32k-ns-genix, pyramid, tahoe, gmicro.
  > > 
  > > There are plenty of others that are also obsolete, but those named
  > > have had many multiples of years completely and obviously not compiled.
  > 
  > I second this.
  > 
  > How about announcing this plan to gcc-announce and, unless there are
  > significant and founded objections, nuke the part after, say, 3 weeks?
Let's add the spur chip to the list above and make the announcement/request.

Other opinions?

jeff

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* "Dead" Ports (was: m68k MacOS target support?)
  2000-09-12 17:55 m68k MacOS target support? Richard Henderson
@ 2000-09-12 22:44 ` Gerald Pfeifer
  2000-09-13  9:26   ` Jeffrey A Law
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Gerald Pfeifer @ 2000-09-12 22:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Richard Henderson; +Cc: Stan Shebs, Joe Buck, Mark Mitchell, gcc

On Tue, 12 Sep 2000, Richard Henderson wrote:
> Personally, I think we ought to immediately nuke all the ports that
> were never updated from gcc 1.x, and that have been commented out in
> the configure file since gcc 2.0.
> 
> Namely: fx80, ns32k-ns-genix, pyramid, tahoe, gmicro.
> 
> There are plenty of others that are also obsolete, but those named
> have had many multiples of years completely and obviously not compiled.

I second this.

How about announcing this plan to gcc-announce and, unless there are
significant and founded objections, nuke the part after, say, 3 weeks?

Gerald
-- 
Gerald "Jerry" pfeifer@dbai.tuwien.ac.at http://www.dbai.tuwien.ac.at/~pfeifer/

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