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From: kenner@vlsi1.ultra.nyu.edu (Richard Kenner)
To: zack@codesourcery.com
Cc: gcc@gcc.gnu.org
Subject: Re: ACATS legal status cleared by FSF
Date: Thu, 06 Dec 2001 15:40:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <10112062313.AA04531@vlsi1.ultra.nyu.edu> (raw)

    I'm 100% confident that there is value to having "make check" drive at
    least some set of Ada tests.  

I don't think *anybody* disagrees with that.  The question is what should
that subset be?  My experience with backend changes is that most of the
failures are in C3, CD, CXA, and CXG, with a smaller number in C4.  For
changes to other than the Ada front-end, the benefit of running additional
chapters is, in my opinion, small.  I can't remember a time when a backend
change caused an ACATS failure that didn't show up in one of those chapters.
That being said, I should also point out that the ACATS suite isn't a very
good test of the back-end at all, but perhaps running it with different
optimization levels will help.

    (with the implication that writing a C testcase is impossible or at
    least too much work).  

Usually impossible.  The issue is trees that can't be made in C, such as with
PLACEHOLDER_EXPR.

    It may make sense not to run the ACATS B tests by default, but they
    should at least be _present_ in the repository so that everyone is on
    an equal footing for changes that affect error messages.

I think everybody agrees with that too, but the question is what does
"present" mean with respect to the baselines, which is where the real
maintenance issue is.

             reply	other threads:[~2001-12-06 23:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2001-12-06 15:40 Richard Kenner [this message]
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2001-12-09 19:03 dewar
2001-12-09 15:06 dewar
2001-12-09 15:55 ` Joseph S. Myers
2001-12-09 14:00 dewar
2001-12-07 19:12 dewar
2001-12-09 13:02 ` Zack Weinberg
2001-12-09 14:52   ` guerby
2001-12-09 19:47     ` Geert Bosch
2001-12-07 18:57 dewar
2001-12-07 18:50 mike stump
2001-12-07 17:59 dewar
2001-12-07  3:18 Richard Kenner
2001-12-06 19:09 dewar
2001-12-06 17:38 dewar
2001-12-06 15:01 Richard Kenner
2001-12-05 23:36 dewar
2001-12-05 15:28 Richard Kenner
2001-12-05 15:41 ` guerby
2001-12-05 15:13 guerby
2001-12-05 16:21 ` Joseph S. Myers
2001-12-05 18:00 ` Jerry van Dijk
2001-12-06  3:36 ` Geoff Keating
2001-12-06  9:34 ` Geert Bosch
2001-12-06 11:48   ` Zack Weinberg
2001-12-06 14:24     ` Geert Bosch
2001-12-06 14:32       ` Joseph S. Myers
2001-12-06 15:10       ` Zack Weinberg
2001-12-06 15:41         ` Geert Bosch
2001-12-06 18:22           ` Zack Weinberg

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