From: kenner@vlsi1.ultra.nyu.edu (Richard Kenner)
To: dberlin@dberlin.org
Cc: bernds_cb1@t-online.de, ebotcazou@libertysurf.fr,
gcc@gcc.gnu.org, sam@rfc1149.net, schwab@suse.de
Subject: Re: Rant about ChangeLog entries and commit messages
Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2007 13:29:00 -0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <10712031329.AA20246@vlsi1.ultra.nyu.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4aca3dc20712021621n39a036d2u21f471f231dfffe@mail.gmail.com>
> Sorry, but again, this is not a good enough justification to me.
> We do a lot of things different than "The GNU Project".
> So do plenty of parts of the "official GNU project".
> They use different coding standards, bug tracking systems, version
> control systems, checkin policies, etc, than each other.
Yes, but none of those are visible other than to the development community.
People who obtain the source distributions of projects don't get to see
those things. They DO see things like the ChangeLog format and coding
and documentation conventions and THOSE are the things that need to be
common among GNU projects.
In my view, ChangeLog is mostly "write-only" from a developer's
perspective. It's a document that the GNU project requires us to produce
for the benefit of people who DON'T want access to our checkin-logs, bug
tracking information, and mailing lsits. But for our own development
purposes, we use the above information much more than ChangeLog.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2007-12-03 13:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2007-12-02 10:05 Samuel Tardieu
2007-12-02 10:23 ` Andreas Schwab
2007-12-02 10:52 ` Samuel Tardieu
2007-12-02 12:04 ` Hans-Peter Nilsson
2007-12-02 23:28 ` Robert Dewar
2007-12-03 0:30 ` DJ Delorie
2007-12-03 4:06 ` Richard Kenner
2007-12-03 4:51 ` Daniel Berlin
2007-12-03 14:41 ` Richard Kenner
2007-12-02 11:43 ` Samuel Tardieu
2007-12-02 12:28 ` Richard Kenner
2007-12-02 12:43 ` Bernd Schmidt
2007-12-02 13:05 ` Eric Botcazou
2007-12-02 14:27 ` Robert Kiesling
2007-12-02 20:52 ` tim
2007-12-03 2:41 ` Robert Kiesling
2007-12-02 23:29 ` Robert Dewar
2007-12-02 20:28 ` Daniel Berlin
2007-12-02 20:36 ` Eric Botcazou
2007-12-02 20:40 ` Daniel Berlin
2007-12-02 22:55 ` Eric Botcazou
2007-12-03 0:21 ` Daniel Berlin
2007-12-03 6:16 ` Eric Botcazou
2007-12-03 13:29 ` Richard Kenner [this message]
2007-12-03 15:48 ` Daniel Berlin
2007-12-03 16:20 ` Richard Kenner
2007-12-03 16:50 ` Robert Kiesling
2007-12-03 17:26 ` Robert Dewar
2007-12-04 22:10 ` Jeffrey Law
2007-12-16 3:03 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-16 10:25 ` NightStrike
2007-12-16 13:04 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-16 18:52 ` NightStrike
2007-12-25 19:35 ` Tim Josling
2007-12-26 1:05 ` Daniel Berlin
2007-12-26 2:17 ` Richard Kenner
2007-12-26 2:31 ` Robert Dewar
2007-12-26 4:53 ` Richard Kenner
2007-12-26 6:00 ` Alexandre Oliva
2007-12-02 20:59 ` tim
2007-12-02 23:32 ` Robert Dewar
2007-12-03 6:02 ` Eric Botcazou
2007-12-03 3:55 ` Richard Kenner
2007-12-02 23:31 ` Joseph S. Myers
2007-12-02 20:23 ` Daniel Berlin
2007-12-03 6:45 ` Nicholas Nethercote
2007-12-03 9:28 ` Andreas Schwab
2007-12-02 10:27 ` Eric Botcazou
2007-12-02 10:43 ` Samuel Tardieu
2007-12-02 10:50 ` Eric Botcazou
2007-12-02 11:14 ` Samuel Tardieu
2007-12-02 11:32 ` Eric Botcazou
2007-12-02 11:48 ` Samuel Tardieu
2007-12-02 12:25 ` Eric Botcazou
2007-12-02 23:03 ` Ben Elliston
2007-12-02 23:54 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2007-12-03 4:03 ` Richard Kenner
2007-12-03 17:33 ` Diego Novillo
2007-12-03 17:37 ` Richard Kenner
2007-12-03 17:47 ` Bernd Schmidt
2007-12-03 17:58 ` Ian Lance Taylor
2007-12-03 18:20 ` Diego Novillo
2007-12-03 18:51 ` Richard Kenner
2007-12-03 18:58 ` Diego Novillo
2007-12-03 20:08 ` Tim Josling
2007-12-03 18:49 ` Richard Kenner
2007-12-04 16:45 ` Tom Tromey
2007-12-05 23:16 ` Ben Elliston
2007-12-05 23:35 ` Daniel Berlin
2007-12-06 0:29 ` Ben Elliston
2007-12-06 9:53 ` Andreas Schwab
2007-12-06 0:42 ` Robert Dewar
[not found] <2007-12-02-11-05-39+trackit+sam@rfc1149.net.suse.lists.egcs>
2007-12-02 18:33 ` Andi Kleen
[not found] ` <jeodd9l7j1.fsf@sykes.suse.de.suse.lists.egcs>
[not found] ` <Pine.GSO.4.61.0712031739500.10932@mulga.csse.unimelb.edu.au.suse.lists.egcs>
2007-12-03 12:20 ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-04 4:03 ` Nicholas Nethercote
2007-12-04 13:05 ` Richard Kenner
2007-12-04 10:19 ` Robert Kiesling
[not found] ` <200712022136.57819.ebotcazou@libertysurf.fr.suse.lists.egcs>
[not found] ` <4aca3dc20712021240k19f3eae5j66453276179c401a@mail.gmail.com.suse.lists.egcs>
[not found] ` <200712022355.23871.ebotcazou@libertysurf.fr.suse.lists.egcs>
[not found] ` <4aca3dc20712021621n39a036d2u21f471f231dfffe@mail.gmail.com.suse.lists.egcs>
[not found] ` <10712031329.AA20246@vlsi1.ultra.nyu.edu.suse.lists.egcs>
2007-12-03 16:34 ` Andi Kleen
2007-12-03 16:38 ` Richard Kenner
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