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From: Mark Mitchell <mark@codesourcery.com>
To: Ziemowit Laski <zlaski@apple.com>
Cc: Steven Bosscher <s.bosscher@student.tudelft.nl>,
	Geoff Keating <geoffk@apple.com>,
	gcc@gcc.gnu.org, Phil Edwards <phil@codesourcery.com>
Subject: Re: gcc 3.5 integration branch proposal
Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 01:01:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1073955693.3458.187.camel@minax.codesourcery.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0A2511CD-4563-11D8-B7FE-000393673036@apple.com>

> In my opinion, one of the duties of the RM (currently Mark) is to devise
> architectural solutions to accommodate such idiosyncracies in the same
> source base. 

This discussion is rapidly degenerating.  

Let's wrap it up and get back to work.

For the record, though, I don't view it as part of my duties as RM to
come up with any sort of design plans for GCC.  That would be fun, and
it is in some other context's my job, and I suppose the FSF could
conceivably appoint some kind of design planner, but they haven't, and
if they did it might very well not be me!

Somehow, we're taking in this down some route where it's Apple vs. the
FSF, which is silly since I didn't criticize Apple.  I'm not judgemental
about Apple's role; I'm merely pointing out that Apple's mindset and the
FSF's mindset might be different because they are looking for different
things from GCC.  That difference in mindset may lead to differences of
opinion about what actions should be taken in the FSF's GCC tree.

-- 
Mark Mitchell <mark@codesourcery.com>
CodeSourcery, LLC

  reply	other threads:[~2004-01-13  1:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 185+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2004-01-10  0:11 Geoffrey Keating
2004-01-10  0:25 ` Phil Edwards
2004-01-10  0:47   ` Geoffrey Keating
2004-01-10 15:41     ` Phil Edwards
2004-01-12 18:47       ` Geoffrey Keating
2004-01-12 19:22         ` Mark Mitchell
2004-01-12 23:42           ` Geoff Keating
2004-01-12 23:48             ` Zack Weinberg
2004-01-12 23:49             ` Mark Mitchell
2004-01-13  0:06               ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-01-13  0:16                 ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-01-13  0:22                   ` Steven Bosscher
2004-01-13 19:48                     ` Gerald Pfeifer
2004-01-13  0:28                 ` Joe Buck
2004-01-13  0:46                   ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-01-13  1:13                 ` Jan Hubicka
2004-01-13  0:11               ` Ziemowit Laski
2004-01-13  0:15                 ` Steven Bosscher
2004-01-13  0:23                   ` Ziemowit Laski
2004-01-13  0:37                     ` Steven Bosscher
2004-01-13  0:45                       ` Jan Hubicka
2004-01-13  0:55                         ` Ziemowit Laski
2004-01-13  0:54                       ` Ziemowit Laski
2004-01-13  1:01                         ` Mark Mitchell [this message]
2004-01-13  1:16                           ` Ziemowit Laski
2004-01-13  1:26                             ` Mark Mitchell
2004-01-13  1:33                               ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-01-13  1:19                         ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-01-13  0:47                     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-01-13  0:59                       ` Altivec (Re: gcc 3.5 integration branch proposal) Matt Austern
2004-01-13  0:16                 ` gcc 3.5 integration branch proposal Mark Mitchell
2004-01-13  0:54                   ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-01-13 21:31               ` Geoff Keating
2004-01-13 22:41                 ` David Edelsohn
2004-01-13 23:13                   ` Daniel Berlin
2004-01-13 23:24                     ` Paul Koning
2004-01-14  0:01                       ` Geoff Keating
2004-01-14  0:26                         ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-01-14  8:35                         ` Laurent GUERBY
2004-01-14 14:58                         ` Paul Koning
2004-01-13 23:29                     ` Mike Stump
2004-01-14  0:47                       ` Andrew Pinski
2004-01-14  1:05                         ` Andrew Pinski
2004-01-14  1:36                       ` Joe Buck
2004-01-14 19:47                         ` Mike Stump
2004-01-13 23:51                 ` Eric Christopher
2004-01-13 23:53                   ` Daniel Berlin
2004-01-14  6:13                 ` Mark Mitchell
2004-01-14  8:39                   ` Laurent GUERBY
2004-01-14  8:48                   ` Steven Bosscher
2004-01-14 20:59                     ` Laurent GUERBY
2004-01-14 21:02                       ` Andrew Haley
2004-01-19  1:31                 ` Marc Espie
2004-01-19  1:51                   ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-01-19 10:40                     ` Nick Burrett
2004-01-19 13:55                       ` Robert Dewar
2004-01-19 15:49                         ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-01-19 16:09                           ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-01-19 16:24                             ` Marc Espie
2004-01-19 17:07                               ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-01-19 17:54                               ` Robert Dewar
2004-01-19 18:03                                 ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-01-19 17:41                             ` Robert Dewar
2004-01-19 18:08                               ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-01-19 18:09                               ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-01-19 18:34                                 ` Marc Espie
2004-01-19 19:06                                 ` Robert Dewar
2004-01-19 20:22                                   ` Eric Botcazou
2004-01-19 20:38                                     ` Robert Dewar
2004-01-19 21:09                                       ` Eric Botcazou
2004-01-19 21:18                                         ` Eric Christopher
2004-01-19 21:46                                           ` Eric Botcazou
2004-01-19 22:09                                             ` Laurent GUERBY
2004-01-19 22:29                                               ` Marc Espie
2004-01-19 23:04                                                 ` Laurent GUERBY
2004-01-20  3:45                                                 ` Robert Dewar
2004-01-20  7:46                                                   ` Marc Espie
2004-01-20 23:22                                                     ` Gerald Pfeifer
2004-01-20 23:28                                                       ` Zack Winkles
2004-01-19 23:53                                             ` Mark Hahn
2004-01-20  0:17                                               ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-01-20 14:27                                                 ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-01-22 14:50                                                 ` Geoffrey Furnish
2004-01-20  6:27                                               ` gcc compilation speed Matt Austern
2004-01-20  7:23                                                 ` Steven Bosscher
2004-01-20  7:40                                                   ` Karel Gardas
2004-01-20  8:25                                               ` gcc 3.5 integration branch proposal Karel Gardas
2004-01-20 12:07                                                 ` Laurent GUERBY
2004-01-20 14:41                                                   ` Karel Gardas
2004-01-20 14:52                                                     ` Daniel Berlin
2004-01-20 14:55                                                       ` Karel Gardas
2004-01-20 15:16                                                     ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-01-20 15:21                                                       ` Karel Gardas
2004-01-20 16:16                                                   ` Comparison of compilation speed of GCC 3.4.0 040114, ICC 8.0 and COMO 4.3.3 on MICO ORB core sources (C++) Karel Gardas
2004-01-20 15:08                                               ` gcc 3.5 integration branch proposal Paul Koning
2004-01-19 21:20                                         ` Robert Dewar
2004-01-20  2:05                                       ` Mike Stump
2004-01-20 14:25                                         ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-01-19 21:34                                     ` Geoff Keating
2004-01-19 22:03                                       ` Eric Botcazou
2004-01-19 22:22                                         ` Geoff Keating
2004-01-19 22:38                                           ` Eric Botcazou
2004-01-20  3:53                                             ` Robert Dewar
2004-01-20  4:52                                               ` Eric Botcazou
2004-01-20  2:44                                           ` Alexandre Oliva
2004-01-20  3:04                                             ` Mike Stump
2004-01-20 19:03                                               ` Alexandre Oliva
2004-01-20 20:41                                                 ` Mike Stump
2004-01-20 22:06                                                   ` Alexandre Oliva
2004-01-20 22:59                                                     ` Mike Stump
2004-01-20 18:52                                             ` Geoffrey Keating
2004-01-20 22:12                                               ` Alexandre Oliva
2004-01-20 22:30                                                 ` Geoffrey Keating
2004-01-21  0:02                                                   ` Alexandre Oliva
2004-01-21 12:12                                                   ` Richard Earnshaw
2004-01-22  6:37                                                     ` Segher Boessenkool
2004-01-22 10:38                                                       ` Richard Earnshaw
2004-01-22  6:27                                                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2004-01-26 18:55                                             ` compile speed [was: gcc 3.5 integration branch proposal] Per Bothner
2004-01-26 19:34                                               ` Alexandre Oliva
2004-01-20  0:01                                     ` GCC's hardware requirements - Where is the freedom? [was: " Matthias Benkmann
2004-01-20  3:13                                       ` Andrew Pinski
2004-01-20  3:17                                         ` Andrew Pinski
2004-01-20  9:23                                           ` Bernd Jendrissek
2004-01-20 21:38                                             ` Mike Stump
2004-01-20 22:50                                             ` Toon Moene
2004-01-20  8:12                                       ` Laurent GUERBY
2004-01-20  9:09                                         ` Eric Botcazou
2004-01-19 17:27                           ` gcc 3.5 integration branch proposal Robert Dewar
2004-01-19 16:26                       ` Per Bothner
2004-01-20  2:14                       ` Mike Stump
2004-01-20  3:49                       ` Zack Weinberg
2004-01-20 10:08                         ` Jan Hubicka
2004-01-20 15:13                           ` Daniel Jacobowitz
2004-01-20 18:04                           ` Zack Weinberg
2004-01-20 18:48                             ` Geoffrey Keating
2004-01-20 19:01                               ` Zack Weinberg
2004-01-20 22:04                                 ` Geoff Keating
2004-01-21  2:23                                   ` Zack Weinberg
2004-01-22  6:27                                 ` Segher Boessenkool
2004-01-19 20:51                     ` Dale Johannesen
2004-01-19 23:01                       ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-01-19  3:42                   ` Marc Espie
2004-01-19  3:47                     ` Robert McNulty Junior
2004-01-19  3:49                     ` David Edelsohn
2004-01-19 13:28                       ` Marc Espie
2004-01-19 13:35                         ` Diego Novillo
2004-01-19 13:35                         ` Jan Hubicka
2004-01-19 19:10                           ` Marc Espie
2004-01-19 19:15                             ` Marc Espie
2004-01-19 20:49                               ` Diego Novillo
2004-01-19 19:39                             ` Jan Hubicka
2004-01-19 13:39                         ` Jan Hubicka
2004-01-19 17:58                         ` Jan Hubicka
2004-01-19  3:59                     ` Zack Weinberg
2004-01-19  8:19                     ` Steven Bosscher
2004-01-19 11:29                     ` Jan Hubicka
2004-01-19 13:18                       ` Jan Hubicka
2004-01-19 14:13                       ` Robert Dewar
2004-01-19 14:18                         ` Jan Hubicka
2004-01-19 14:48                           ` Vladimir Makarov
2004-01-19 17:04                             ` Jan Hubicka
2004-01-20  2:46                     ` Alexandre Oliva
2004-01-19  4:37                   ` Giovanni Bajo
2004-01-19  4:46                     ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-01-19  7:04                       ` Eric Botcazou
2004-01-19  7:10                         ` Andreas Jaeger
2004-01-19  8:12                       ` Steven Bosscher
2004-01-19  8:38                         ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-01-19  8:45                           ` Steven Bosscher
2004-01-19  9:35                             ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-01-12 22:40       ` Mike Stump
2004-01-13 23:31 Michael Elizabeth Chastain
2004-01-19 16:24 Paul Koning
2004-01-19 17:46 ` Robert Dewar
2004-01-19 17:51   ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-01-19 18:12     ` Scott Robert Ladd
2004-01-19 18:20       ` Gabriel Dos Reis
2004-01-19 18:29       ` Giovanni Bajo
2004-01-19 18:22     ` Robert Dewar
2004-01-19 18:30   ` Paul Koning
2004-01-20 10:46     ` Russ Allbery
2004-01-20  3:00 D. Starner
2004-01-20  3:14 ` Andrew Pinski
2004-01-20  5:19 D. Starner

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