From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from cczrelay01.in2p3.fr (cczrelay05.in2p3.fr [134.158.66.155]) by sourceware.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A623E3968C1B for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2021 15:25:50 +0000 (GMT) DMARC-Filter: OpenDMARC Filter v1.3.2 sourceware.org A623E3968C1B Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; dmarc=none (p=none dis=none) header.from=in2p3.fr Authentication-Results: sourceware.org; spf=pass smtp.mailfrom=kryn@in2p3.fr Received: from [192.168.1.58] (143.24.149.77.rev.sfr.net [77.149.24.143]) (authenticated bits=0) by cczrelay01.in2p3.fr (8.14.4/8.14.4) with ESMTP id 13EFPi9M028034 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 14 Apr 2021 17:25:49 +0200 X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.100.3 at cczrelay01 Subject: Re: removing toxic emailers To: gcc@gcc.gnu.org References: <20210414131843.GA4138043@thyrsus.com> <7e126821-f66c-869a-a7bc-6c19a3c1f017@netcologne.de> From: Didier Kryn Message-ID: <1090d362-3a38-1e02-7d7b-b05431acc057@in2p3.fr> Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 17:25:44 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: fr-FR X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, JMQ_SPF_NEUTRAL, KAM_DMARC_STATUS, NICE_REPLY_A, SPF_HELO_NONE, SPF_PASS, TXREP autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.2 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.2 (2018-09-13) on server2.sourceware.org X-BeenThere: gcc@gcc.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Gcc mailing list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2021 15:25:52 -0000 Le 14/04/2021 =C3=A0 16:49, Jonathan Wakely via Gcc a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0: > On Wed, 14 Apr 2021 at 15:39, Thomas Koenig wrote: >> On 14.04.21 15:18, Eric S. Raymond wrote: >>> A strong norm about off-list behavior and politics being >>> out of bounds here is also helpful. >> That would have banned the whole discussion about the potential >> fork from the start. > No, because once again, I raised the topic of a fork because I do not > feel that association with GNU or FSF benefits the GCC project. I did > not say "we have to cancel them because I don't like their politics" > (as it happens, I do like their politics, which is why I've spent two > decades writing copyleft code for GCC, I just think they have failed > to evolve and are sadly irrelevant today). =C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Well,=C2=A0 /I just think they have failed to evolve a= nd are sadly irrelevant today/=C2=A0 boils down to=C2=A0 /They have again elected RMS.= / The word=C2=A0 /today/=C2=A0 sounds like a reference to the=C2=A0 /modern sta= ndards/=C2=A0 I have read before on the subject. (~: -- =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Didier