From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: (qmail 27959 invoked by alias); 24 Apr 2010 12:56:23 -0000 Received: (qmail 27951 invoked by uid 22791); 24 Apr 2010 12:56:22 -0000 X-SWARE-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_50,T_LOTS_OF_MONEY,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD X-Spam-Check-By: sourceware.org Received: from VLSI1.ULTRA.NYU.EDU (HELO vlsi1.ultra.nyu.edu) (128.122.140.213) by sourceware.org (qpsmtpd/0.43rc1) with SMTP; Sat, 24 Apr 2010 12:56:17 +0000 Received: by vlsi1.ultra.nyu.edu (4.1/1.34) id AA26677; Sat, 24 Apr 10 09:02:49 EDT From: kenner@vlsi1.ultra.nyu.edu (Richard Kenner) Message-Id: <11004241302.AA26677@vlsi1.ultra.nyu.edu> Date: Sat, 24 Apr 2010 13:02:00 -0000 To: lopezibanez@gmail.com Subject: Re: Why not contribute? (to GCC) Cc: basile@starynkevitch.net, gcc@gcc.gnu.org In-Reply-To: References: <4BD235DB.2080504@starynkevitch.net> X-IsSubscribed: yes Mailing-List: contact gcc-help@gcc.gnu.org; run by ezmlm Precedence: bulk List-Id: List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: Sender: gcc-owner@gcc.gnu.org X-SW-Source: 2010-04/txt/msg00641.txt.bz2 > The university of Illinois is in the same legal position as the FSF > and they probably have good lawyers too, so the terms are with almost > certainty similar. Perhaps someone made a mistake during your process > or they sent the wrong papers or whatever. But again, in this aspect > there is not (or there should not be) any difference between the GCC > and LLVM, except for the process itself, which I am starting to see > that it is more problematic than I thought. Actually, the University of Illinois is NOT in the same legal position as the FSF and needs to be much MORE careful! The FSF has no assets: anybody suing it and winning will get a symbolic victory only, but no real money. Universities own a lot of buildings, to say nothing of their endowment! All of that would be a jeopardy if they messed up on the handling of a patch. That gives people much MORE incentive to sue them than the FSF. I haven't seen the documents from them, but I'd expect them to be even stricter than those from the FSF since they have so much more at stake. If somebody sues the FSF for $10M and wins, the FSF goes away, but no money is lost. If somebody sues a university for $10M and wins, they get that money and the university loses it.