From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Tudor Hulubei To: Paul Derbyshire , egcs@egcs.cygnus.com Subject: Re: Question about compiler-supplied assignment and copy with egcs. Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 02:51:00 -0000 Message-id: <14041.8114.947193.298212@hal.ttlc.net> References: <27> <1999> <21:02:49> <-0800> <3.0.6.32.19990228000118.00923340.cygnus.egcs@pop.globalserve.net> <3.0.6.32.19990228041020.00970140@pop.globalserve.net> X-SW-Source: 1999-02/msg01409.html On Sunday, 28 February 1999, Paul Derbyshire wrote: > Why don't they merge each new feature in as they get it finished, instead > of making everyone wait until they can get their Webcams set up and have a > ribbon-cutting ceremony in live video streaming? :P Maybe because we need stable compilers/libraries? Maybe because the old and new versions of libstdc++ cannot be mixed at will? [A few other obvious maybes deleted...]. Why don't you use your brain before bothering this list with such dumb questions? This list used to be of very high quality before you came. Call me a fascist, but if I were the administrator of this list, I would ban you access to it. You are annoying too many people. > As for the URL, I found the mailing list address there and (because I can > potentially help out) sent a subscribe request, but the list server failed > to respond in any way whatsoever. All I did was put "subscribe Paul > Derbyshire" in the subject and in the first line of the body (since list > servers vary a great deal and sometimes expect a command in the subject, > sometimes in the body). There should have been SOME response, even if only > a bounce of some kind or a list server error message. > > As near as I can tell, I've either > 1. Been silently subscribed to a low volume mailing list, with no > welcome message, and where even the submit addresses and ways to > filter the messages to their own folder will have to wait until I > actually receive a posting through it, or else > 2. Something was wrong with my request and the list server error > message bounced or otherwise failed to get through, which is > highly improbable since as always I used valid From: and Reply-To: > addresses, no munging, or else > 3. The list server has a bug, or else > 4. The list server is down. > > Does anyone have any information about which of these is the case? I need > to know to tailor my course of action; 1 invovles waiting and seeing, 2 > involves cajoling list server syntax information out of somebody, and 3 and > 4 involve the list server's Someone In Charge being notified about the > error so they can Fix It and possibly resubmitting the subscription request. Is this the Introduction of your PhD thesis in "Mailing Lists Behavior"? Could you please describe in greate detail the topology of your kitchen or other useless crap nobody on this list cares to know? > Note: I have allowed adequate time for a response to be generated and > received, namely over 4 hours. Since I don't live in Upper Moldovia or > anywhere similarly exotic, I happen to be a Romanian, and I find your comment about Moldavia offending (yes, it is spelled Moldavia, not Moldovia, but I won't insist - you have more serious problems than that). If you didn't realise by now that there is a good chance of someone taking offence at this kind of comment then you don't deserve to be on the net in the first place. > that should be plenty of time to receive either a response or a > 4-hour-warning bounce if Something Went Wrong. Have you notified the White House? Tudor From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 From: Tudor Hulubei To: Paul Derbyshire , egcs@egcs.cygnus.com Subject: Re: Question about compiler-supplied assignment and copy with egcs. Date: Sun, 28 Feb 1999 22:53:00 -0000 Message-ID: <14041.8114.947193.298212@hal.ttlc.net> References: <27> <1999> <21:02:49> <-0800> <3.0.6.32.19990228000118.00923340.cygnus.egcs@pop.globalserve.net> <3.0.6.32.19990228041020.00970140@pop.globalserve.net> X-SW-Source: 1999-02n/msg01422.html Message-ID: <19990228225300.M6PhrRJYUWaAN21g3JoqhGiPlRGVaFjxPRuozWK0djM@z> On Sunday, 28 February 1999, Paul Derbyshire wrote: > Why don't they merge each new feature in as they get it finished, instead > of making everyone wait until they can get their Webcams set up and have a > ribbon-cutting ceremony in live video streaming? :P Maybe because we need stable compilers/libraries? Maybe because the old and new versions of libstdc++ cannot be mixed at will? [A few other obvious maybes deleted...]. Why don't you use your brain before bothering this list with such dumb questions? This list used to be of very high quality before you came. Call me a fascist, but if I were the administrator of this list, I would ban you access to it. You are annoying too many people. > As for the URL, I found the mailing list address there and (because I can > potentially help out) sent a subscribe request, but the list server failed > to respond in any way whatsoever. All I did was put "subscribe Paul > Derbyshire" in the subject and in the first line of the body (since list > servers vary a great deal and sometimes expect a command in the subject, > sometimes in the body). There should have been SOME response, even if only > a bounce of some kind or a list server error message. > > As near as I can tell, I've either > 1. Been silently subscribed to a low volume mailing list, with no > welcome message, and where even the submit addresses and ways to > filter the messages to their own folder will have to wait until I > actually receive a posting through it, or else > 2. Something was wrong with my request and the list server error > message bounced or otherwise failed to get through, which is > highly improbable since as always I used valid From: and Reply-To: > addresses, no munging, or else > 3. The list server has a bug, or else > 4. The list server is down. > > Does anyone have any information about which of these is the case? I need > to know to tailor my course of action; 1 invovles waiting and seeing, 2 > involves cajoling list server syntax information out of somebody, and 3 and > 4 involve the list server's Someone In Charge being notified about the > error so they can Fix It and possibly resubmitting the subscription request. Is this the Introduction of your PhD thesis in "Mailing Lists Behavior"? Could you please describe in greate detail the topology of your kitchen or other useless crap nobody on this list cares to know? > Note: I have allowed adequate time for a response to be generated and > received, namely over 4 hours. Since I don't live in Upper Moldovia or > anywhere similarly exotic, I happen to be a Romanian, and I find your comment about Moldavia offending (yes, it is spelled Moldavia, not Moldovia, but I won't insist - you have more serious problems than that). If you didn't realise by now that there is a good chance of someone taking offence at this kind of comment then you don't deserve to be on the net in the first place. > that should be plenty of time to receive either a response or a > 4-hour-warning bounce if Something Went Wrong. Have you notified the White House? Tudor