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From: "Uecker, Martin" <Martin.Uecker@med.uni-goettingen.de>
To: "Peter.Sewell@cl.cam.ac.uk" <Peter.Sewell@cl.cam.ac.uk>
Cc: "gcc@gcc.gnu.org" <gcc@gcc.gnu.org>,
	"law@redhat.com" <law@redhat.com>,
	"richard.guenther@gmail.com" <richard.guenther@gmail.com>,
	"cl-c-memory-object-model@lists.cam.ac.uk"
	<cl-c-memory-object-model@lists.cam.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: C provenance semantics proposal
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2019 15:09:00 -0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1555600162.29723.1.camel@med.uni-goettingen.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAHWkzRTGBTVQSPT125dF92se51OPpta5XBpkf4AWCAX3ARbrXA@mail.gmail.com>

Am Donnerstag, den 18.04.2019, 15:49 +0100 schrieb Peter Sewell:
> On Thu, 18 Apr 2019 at 14:54, Uecker, Martin
> <Martin.Uecker@med.uni-goettingen.de> wrote:
> > 
> > Am Donnerstag, den 18.04.2019, 07:42 -0600 schrieb Jeff Law:
> > > On 4/18/19 6:20 AM, Uecker, Martin wrote:
> > > > Am Donnerstag, den 18.04.2019, 11:45 +0100 schrieb Peter Sewell:
> > > > > On Thu, 18 Apr 2019 at 10:32, Richard Biener <richard.guenther@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > ...
> > > > 4.) Compilers make sure that exposed objects never
> > > > are allocated next to each other (as Jens proposed).
> > > 
> > > Ugh.  Not sure how you enforce that.  Consider that the compiler may
> > > ultimately have no control over layout of data in static storage.
> > 
> > One maybe only where it matters? I assume the biggest benefit
> > is for local variables and there the compiler has full control.
> > 
> > For arbitrary pointer coming from somewhere, one has no provenance
> > information anyway.
> 
> that's not quite true - one does know that it can't have the same provenance
> as anything created more recently than the incoming pointer

Good point. But then the objects can not be next to each other anyway.

Best,
Martin

  reply	other threads:[~2019-04-18 15:09 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-02  8:11 Peter Sewell
2019-04-12 14:51 ` Jeff Law
2019-04-12 15:31   ` Peter Sewell
2019-04-17  9:06     ` Richard Biener
2019-04-17  9:15       ` Peter Sewell
2019-04-17  9:41         ` Richard Biener
2019-04-17 11:53           ` Uecker, Martin
2019-04-17 12:41             ` Richard Biener
2019-04-17 12:56               ` Uecker, Martin
2019-04-17 13:35                 ` Richard Biener
2019-04-17 14:12                   ` Uecker, Martin
2019-04-17 17:31                     ` Peter Sewell
2019-04-18  9:32                     ` Richard Biener
2019-04-18  9:56                       ` Richard Biener
2019-04-18 10:48                         ` Peter Sewell
2019-04-18 11:57                         ` Uecker, Martin
2019-04-18 12:31                           ` Richard Biener
2019-04-18 13:25                             ` Uecker, Martin
2019-04-18 10:45                       ` Peter Sewell
2019-04-18 12:20                         ` Uecker, Martin
2019-04-18 12:42                           ` Richard Biener
2019-04-18 12:47                             ` Jakub Jelinek
2019-04-18 12:51                               ` Jakub Jelinek
2019-04-18 13:29                                 ` Jeff Law
2019-04-24 10:12                                   ` Richard Biener
2019-04-18 13:49                             ` Uecker, Martin
2019-04-19  8:19                             ` Jens Gustedt
2019-04-19  8:49                               ` Jakub Jelinek
2019-04-19  9:09                                 ` Jens Gustedt
2019-04-19  9:34                                   ` Jakub Jelinek
2019-04-21  8:15                                     ` Jens Gustedt
2019-04-24 10:24                                   ` Richard Biener
2019-04-24 18:43                                     ` Jeff Law
2019-04-24 19:21                                       ` Jens Gustedt
2019-04-19  9:11                                 ` Peter Sewell
2019-04-19  9:15                                   ` Jens Gustedt
2019-04-19  9:35                                     ` Peter Sewell
2019-04-19 10:35                                       ` Uecker, Martin
2019-04-19 10:01                               ` Uecker, Martin
2019-04-18 13:42                           ` Jeff Law
2019-04-18 13:54                             ` Uecker, Martin
2019-04-18 14:49                               ` Peter Sewell
2019-04-18 15:09                                 ` Uecker, Martin [this message]
2019-04-24 10:19                             ` Richard Biener
2019-04-24 18:41                               ` Jeff Law
2019-04-24 19:30                                 ` Philipp Klaus Krause
2019-04-24 19:55                                   ` Uecker, Martin
2019-04-24 19:33                                 ` Jakub Jelinek
2019-04-24 21:19                                 ` Peter Sewell
2019-04-25 12:42                                   ` Richard Biener
2019-04-25 13:03                                     ` Peter Sewell
2019-04-25 13:13                                       ` Richard Biener
2019-04-25 13:20                                         ` Peter Sewell
2019-04-29 14:31                                       ` Joseph Myers
2019-04-25 12:39                                 ` Richard Biener
2019-05-09 11:26                                   ` Ralf Jung

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